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I asked some questions of Climate Change Minister Penny Wong in Question Time in the Senate today. After you read my questions and her answers you may care to add your name to the almost 13,000 others already on the petition .

My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Water, Senator Wong. Can the minister advise the Senate whether the Canadian government has decided to defer further consideration of its climate change legislation until after the meeting at Copenhagen?

Senator WONG—I am happy to give the good senator a response about action on emissions trading in a whole range of countries. He might be interested to know that the United States President, President Obama, has confirmed his commitment—
 
The PRESIDENT—Senator Wong, I draw your attention to the question.
 
Senator WONG—I am advised that the Canadian government is working to introduce an emissions trading scheme and has committed to developing and implementing a North America wide cap and trade system. I am advised that the US President—
 
Senator Joyce—Mr President, I rise on a point of order going to the issue of relevance. My question specifically asked: have the Canadians deferred further consideration until after Copenhagen?
 
Senator Chris Evans—Mr President, on the point of order, Senator Wong was talking about the advice she had received about what Canada was doing in responding to the threat of climate change. She was directly relevant. Senator Joyce ought to listen rather than trying to have another crack at asking his question.
 
The PRESIDENT—Order, the minister has one minute and 29 seconds remaining to answer the question. I call the minister.
 
Senator WONG—As I was saying, the President of the United States has also confirmed his commitment to a cap and trade scheme. He has. I can also indicate—
 
Opposition senators interjecting—
 
Senator JOYCE—Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. All the way through her answer to that question the minister failed to answer whether the government will defer this until after Copenhagen. But she did refer to the United States so let us go there. Can the minister also confirm that the Senate leaders in the United States—
 
Government senators interjecting—
 
The PRESIDENT—Order on my right. Senator Joyce is entitled to be heard in silence.
 
Senator JOYCE—I am amazed to find that we could not get an answer to my previous question so let me try this next one. Can the minister also confirm that the Senate leaders in the United States have also confirmed that they will defer consideration of their legislation on climate change until after Copenhagen?
 
Senator WONG—Mr President, if the US legislation does not get passed this year it is not because the United States government wanted to wait until after Copenhagen; it is because they had a traffic jam of reform in their Senate. But, Mr President, you know what we have: we have sceptics putting up roadblocks at every turn—
 
Honourable senators interjecting—
 
The PRESIDENT—Order, I know it is the end of the week and people are getting very excited but I need a bit of order so I can hear the answer to the question.
 
Senator WONG—It might be useful to remember and to remind those at that end of the chamber, and Senator Bernardi, that the United States in fact started a year after Australia did—in fact they are moving very fast to get to this point. I will say this: if Senator Joyce is saying to the government that he would pass an ETS after a cap a trade scheme has passed the US Senate then let us hear it—because I would suggest that that is not his position; his position is ‘never’.
 
TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS

Senator JOYCE It is also perplexing at this point of time to see that nothing has been delivered to this parliament by way of an amendment or an examination. There is nothing to see. Is there any conjecture over there? Is there something of concern? Is it possibly the case that modelling is starting to suggest that we might have a bit of a problem here because the modelling only dealt with Australia working co-jointly with other nations in a policy— (Time expired)
 
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# TURNBULL IS A GLOBALIST SELLOUT
Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:46 PM
Good for you Barnaby.
Have you been following Andrew Bolt's blog which is detailing all the porkies Wong is telling? There are some major exaggerations in her figures.

But here's the bottom line.

Malcolm Turnbull has enough counter information to blow this ENORMOUS TAX SCAM out of Parliament. You can attack Wong and Rudd all you like - they will not change their position at this stage.

The Liberal leader is the one who needs to be questioned.
Who does he own his allegiance to? Goldman Sachs? Labor? Himself?
I though he was working for Australians.

I have never in my lifetime seen such any enormous fraud being perpetuated by politicians in Australia.
And Turnbull is a HUGE part of the problem.
I think both parties are showing themselves to be traitors.
It's like the government have turned into compulsive liars.
There are some exceptional members like yourself however on the whole
I have never witnessed such fraud and deception.

WE ARE BEING DECEIVED by the very people who are meant to protect us.
Shame on those who know better and are keeping silent.
Barnaby - where is the mainstream media coverage?
It is fair to say that the majority of Australians, do not have a clue about how serious this is.

KEEP THE PRESSURE ON TURNBULL
ALL HE HAS TO SAY IS NO.


# Edwin Knight
Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:13 PM
Dear Senator Joyce,
You made some ill-informed comments about Scientology after Senator Xenophon's comments.
In Victoria in 1965, the Psycholiogical Practice Act was passed to limit the influence of Scientology, whiuch was not then a religion. you should read the comments in the media at that time about the evil influence of Scientology.
Subsequently, Scientology re-invented itself as a reliigion and so evaded the Act. I believe that you should support Senator Xenophon or at leat be informed about this cult.
Best wishes,
Edwin Knight
Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 AM
It seems the Opposition is in the dark on this issue as much as the Australian public. Wong is covering up at every turn. Keep up the good work Barnaby. The ETS must not get off the ground.
Friday, November 20, 2009 7:09 AM
Keep up the great work Barnaby, the tide is rising against this appalling ETS
# Michelle
Friday, November 20, 2009 7:53 AM
I agree with comment below that the pressure must be placed on Mr Turnbull to say NO to ETS. We need a strong opposition voice and I'm so pleased that you are taking up this fight for us Australians.

Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong are selling us out - please stop the rot now.

Regards.
# mike
Friday, November 20, 2009 9:03 AM
I'd just like to lend my support to you in your fight in preventing the propaganda known as the ETS Bill being passed. There is no willingness on the part of the government to look at impartial evidence regarding the science of "Climate Change' and therefore we can assume they are pushing through this legislation for some other purpose besides a concern for the planet.The most obvious reason would appear to be empowering government over the people with new taxes and regulations that become millstones around our necks.
We support you Barnaby in your opposition to this dreadful legislation
# trevor scarborough
Friday, November 20, 2009 9:15 AM
thank you Barnaby my Father and grandparents and im sure yours would be very priud of you you are only one of a very few in Government with GUTS enough to make a stand against this bull i thank you once again. I am totally against this ETS TAX .I honesty believe the liberals should get rid of Mr Turnbull he is not the one to get australia out of this grap,why cant any of the media take Wrong Rudd and company to task on this i just cant believe the lies being told,I love this Country .im a ex Vietnam Vet ALL my family from WW1 ww2 Korea Vietnam and present have served in the AUSTRALIAN ARMY. And i hate what they are doing it borders on TREASON. THANK YOU KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK .
# Ken Clough
Friday, November 20, 2009 10:03 AM

Keep after her Barnaby,your doing agood job.

Ken
# Lorikeet
Friday, November 20, 2009 10:15 AM
Yes, I saw and heard her deliberately dodging the questions on national television.

Before Barnaby spoke, Steve Fielding accused her of swiping most the Murray Basin water for her own state of South Australia. I noticed she could not look him in the eye - clearly having perpetrated this dastardly deed in order to ensure her own re-election.

Penny Wong clearly espouses a dangerous bunch of Green stupidity relevant to her portfolio (Minister for Climate Change and Water), which could easily see our nation in even worse financial tatters. Who does she think she's kidding??

It has also NOT escaped my notice that she has an Asian appearance and a Chinese surname, which might strike fear into the souls of lesser beings, especially considering the possibility that Rudd may have been made an Honorary Citizen of The People's Republic of China, in exchange for various forms of favouritism.
# Lorikeet
Friday, November 20, 2009 10:25 AM
I think Australian citizens should be made aware of what the signing of the Copenhagen Treaty will mean.

It will lock us into a worldwide redistribution of wealth, from developed nations to the third world.

Then we will be locked into Global Corporate Communism. This is why nearly all of our politicians have a little "Green" man riding on their backs, and our children are being indoctrinated with "Climate Change" in our schools.

We have a gross foreign debt in excess of $1.2 trillion. Surely that means we have nothing to give away, and an enormous amount to claw back???

I will reiterate that The Greens have a policy on Global Governance on their website, for anyone to read.
Friday, November 20, 2009 11:10 AM
Penny Wong hasn't worked out how to stop Cows Farting!! She is so verbally confused her mental processes defy description of her efforts to respond or elaborate on a simple answer as a scrambled answer and diversion tactics are the hallmark of liars!!
# Mick Roberts
Friday, November 20, 2009 11:59 AM
I agree Karen Brown!
Good on ya Barnaby, its good to see that there is still some integrity in Camberra for the people to believe in. Maybe if the facts about climate change were made more available to the public (ie advertising), then there would be alot more opposition to this deceptive E.T.S legislation, I'm sure that alot of businesses would donate a little to SAVE themselves alot of $. Keep onto them mate!
# Ted O'Shannessy
Friday, November 20, 2009 2:56 PM
I object strongly and emphatically to the ETS in its current form and request all parties vote strongly against it at every opportunity.
No ETS either locally or Internationally should be accepted without 75% worldwide popular vote.

The world polution problem is simple to solve, start planting less flammable forest and STOP BREEDING LIKE RABBITS.
# Till
Friday, November 20, 2009 3:11 PM
STAY THE COURSE BARNABY.
I like many millions of other Australian are relying on you.
This is a huge mistake for Australia - why is Rudd so eager to destroy our quality of life and societal security through this enormous fraudulent tax
and massive immigration plan?

Global warming is nothing but a gross politicization of science.
There is no open debate - there is NO mandate for the Labor government
to introduce such a nefarious tax scheme. It is critically short on detail and
most Australians haven't understood the wide ranging destructive ramifications.

Can you provide a list of all Liberal senators with emails who are voting for
this scam? I think many of us would like to remind them who they work for.
They seem to have forgotten.

Keep up the good work.
# darryl mitchell
Friday, November 20, 2009 3:46 PM
I haven,t herd so much bull since the millenium bug. How much did that cost the world. This is nothing but a BULLSH-- TAX . KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BARNABY andKEEP THE BASTARDS HONESTqC2ngF
# Cristine Kuhnert
Friday, November 20, 2009 4:02 PM
Hi Barnaby,
I am horrified at the implications of this UN deal that Rudd is about to fulfill in Copenhagen and it seems Malcolm Turnbull is lying low when he should be putting a stop to this madness. A wonderful publication Hinterland Voice is doing it's best to inform people. www.hinterlandvoice.com.au
Can the Governor General not sack Rudd before he goes to Copenhagen as Whitlam was tossed out some years ago? Rudd is not doing his job and should go. Has he forgotten he is a servant of the people of Australia?

Sincerely,
Cristine Kuhnert
# Lorikeet
Friday, November 20, 2009 4:23 PM
I agree with Edwin Knight. The Church of Scientology is an extremely destructive commercial cult posing as a religion.

What Nick Xenophon said about them was entirely accurate. It seems they are just as bad as they were when I was involved with the Cult Awareness Network some 16 years ago.

The only thing that has changed is that they are hiding behind religion, while they continue to deliberately find fault with people's emotional status and use it to rip them off to the tune of thousands of dollars.

If you criticise them in any way, death threats can sometimes follow.
# Malcolm Cooper
Friday, November 20, 2009 5:19 PM
Judging by your comments and also Ms Wong i would agree that we should defer all climate change legislation until more info is available and also to see what will occur at the Copenhagen Conference.
# Greg Rauchle
Saturday, November 21, 2009 5:20 AM
I heard a story that Malcom Turnbull has interests in carbon trading companies and is poised to make huge sums of money if this ETS is introduced, just like Al Gore!
# John Bow
Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:47 AM
She still did not answer the question!

The Canadians and US will not agree to anything. The US has crippling debt and Mr Obama is leading them to the same bankruptcy as we are heading thanks to Mr KRudd. The US did not even agree to the Kyoto Accord. Mr KRudd did and look that has taken us!
# John
Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:53 AM
If the Treaty is signed in Copenhagen, China is declared as one of ghe nations that will receive the money from the more prosperous 'carbon creating' nations. This will result in Australia having to pay back our debt to China and then giving them money via aid! Can anyone else se the problem with this scenario?
# Murray Burton
Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:40 AM
Good on you Barnaby kept up good work i agree it is just another tax i also believe that it is very scary what Rudd is trying to do. there does'nt seem to be any guts in the opposition at this time
Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:12 AM
Barnaby, if you aren't already aware the CRU hack has led to the release of some very interesting information. It is still being analysed but appears to be genuine.

No mention in this morning's Australian newspaper but check Andrew Bolt's blog for links.

I think this needs to be put on the record in parliament.
# more government accountability
Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:02 PM

ENOUGH OF THIS UTTER MADNESS.
Our government has wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars structuring
this toxic tax and hasn't even ONCE debated it's merits.
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
HOW CAN WE REVERSE ALL THE INSANITY?
We need a citizen run government accountability group, as it seems
BOTH parties have vested interests in seeing this tax implemented.

I find all the political negotiating on the ETS maddening
Why are you negotiating on a fundamentally flawed tax
No amount of amendments make this tax right
No amount of changes reverse the fundamental flaws
I am infuriated that a handful of bureaucrats would give away this
countries future so willingly? If after all this media nonsense about
infighting, the Liberals back down and vote yes with Turnbull, then
I will be absolutely convinced all this was for show.

Quite frankly I have ZERO trust in any politician right now that thinks
ordinary Australians could possibly bear more taxation.
DO YOU WANT AS ALL WORKING AS SLAVES TO THE UN?
This is OUTRAGEOUS AND TREASONOUS to all Australians
There are no words to describe the contempt I feel

How much more can we all take?
We already have bloated food, fuel and housing prices !!
And now Rudd wants to massive immigration to put the final
nails in coffin of our standards of living.
People are NOT deaf dumb and stupid - we know that countries
all over Europe are trying to PAY refugees to go BACK to there own
countries due to increased crime and pressure on their social services.

Does Turnbull has financial interests in carbon trading companies?
Does he? I find this easy to believe.
Barnaby, I think it's time for the Liberals to make themselves over
without Turnbull. He is not leadership material.
We need a party that stands for small government, and less
tax and intrusion into people's lives.
EVERYONE responds positively to values such as these
Please continue to hold to your own values and vote NO on the ETS





# Greg Rauchle
Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:27 PM
SUBJECT: Warmist conspiracy exposed?

This is worthy of your utmost attention!

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/

Is this the Smoking Gun?

Cheers
# Elizabeth Alves
Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:57 PM

Senator Wong had no intention of answering the question because the answer obviously was not one she favoured or wanted Australians to hear.
This is a mendactious, not to be trusted government.
The passage of an ETS or CPRS bill will do Australia and all Australians a great deal of harm.
The Opposition must deny Turnbull his wish to pass ETS and thwart his attempts to turn the Opposition from blue to a pale shade of red.
We do not need two parties of the same ilk.
We need to be given clearly deligned choices which should emanate from the differing philosophies of the main parties - that is, they did differ until Turnbull appeared.
Back to Wong - how on earth do you cope with this sort of non-answer and the twisting of the question to something else altogether?
Perhaps a bit of government senators head knocking together might be a good weapon. If only. How we out here would love to see that happen.
# Trevor D'Enyar
Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:13 PM
Senator Wong has been duped as has been Kevin Rudd, about climate change. Wong recently made a totally falacious statement, that is 13 of the last 14 years have been the hotest on record. That is a blatant lie. Since temperatures were first recorded in the USA in 1880, the hotest year to-date was 1934.

Since 1998 temperatures have been dropping. Climate change is a much more dangerous con than was Y2K in 2000.

It is being used to usher in the One World Government, which wants to control the world. It must be stopped. We must not allow Rudd's bloated ego and vanity give Australia into the hands of these evil people behind this con.

It is like the hole in the Ozone layer it has always been there. Quite normal.
# Greg Rauchle
Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:04 PM
SUBJECT: Nations to seek billions in 'climate debt'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26380589-23109,00.html

CENTRAL American nations will DEMAND $US105 billion ($114.2 billion) from industrialised countries(SUCH AS AUSTRALIA) for DAMAGES caused by global warming, the region's representatives say.
Central American environment ministers gathered in Guatemala overnight to discuss the so-called "ecological debt" owed to them and to set out a common position ahead of climate talks in Copenhagen next month.

Guatemalan environment minister Luis Ferrate said the $US105 billion ($114.2 billion) price tag was "an estimate" of the damage done by climate change across 16 sectors in Belize, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Panama.

Ferrate minister said the region "had never faced" so much drought, aridity, flooding, and precarious food security.

A formal proposal will be presented in Denmark, officials said.

His Nicaraguan counterpart Juana Arguenal said that Central America would press industrialised countries to reach concrete decisions to reduce "greenhouse" gases at Copenhagen.

"We hope for a deal that is ethical and moral," she said.

# Greg Rauchle
Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:46 PM
What a SICK TWISTED JOKE on the world. These Third world countries can destroy their own environment through deforestation and poor enviromental practices, yet they expect Australians and others to pay them to fix these problems that they themselves have caused!
Am I the only one that has a problem with this logic(or lack of it)!
# Roger Hoggett
Saturday, November 21, 2009 2:54 PM
Thank God we have you in the Senate ,demand the Rudd Goverment disclose the contents of the ETS to the Australian People. Malcom Turnbull hasn't the BALLS to to lead the LIBERAL PARTY ALL he is doing is tearing it apart, he has become Kevin Dudd's lap dog.PLEASE dont let this legislation pass through the Senate, it will destroy our Country's and our Children's future.99% of Australian's ARE behind you.
# dennis donovan
Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:43 PM
I have yet to meet anyone who believes in ETS....carbon pollution.....
or anyone who will admit to believing......politicians say that we are a rich
country.......what about our debt???........of course the implementation of
the above will make us poorer.......and will make no difference to world health....regarding this and other problems,Barnaby,keep up the good work
# Terry Sweeney
Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:01 PM
Whilst I am deeply concerned by the proposed ETS legislation, I am totally outraged by this Government's arrogance in refusing to answer questions about this legislaton and the contents and ramifications of the proposed Copenhagen Treaty.

Can't the Opposition see the electoral benefits in opposing this legislation. Ghe Australian public are no longer fooled by the Government scare campaign, the truth is slowly coming out.

The opposition needs leadership on this issue and Turnbull is NOT that leader.
# Phillip Daniels
Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:00 PM
Please continue to fight against this AGW rubbish Senator Joyce.
As the pro AGW scientific gap narrows through people speaking out, we need you Senator, to lead the conservative voice as we have been abandoned by Mr Turnbull. Now with further evidence of cover ups, falsifying of data and the exposure of the corruption of facts from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, it is time that common sense prevailed and this insidious tax is thwarted before it becomes law.

Al Gore, probably one of the greatest snake oil salesman of all time, total hypocrite and classis liberal 'do as I say, not as I do' alarmist that makes the Y2K scam seem like kindergarten stuff. It would appear that the world is gradually waking up to the lies Al Gore perpetuates. Mr Rudd, Senator Wong and their ilk worship the Al Gore led attempt to change the world as we know it. I am old enough to remember as a young person in the 1970's, being indoctrinated into the 'clear and irrefutable scientific evidence that an ice age is imminent' scare mongering. There are a lot of so called 'experts' and 'scientists' from that era who preached the coming ice age and now appear with the same credentials warning of AGW.

I am sick of seeing young children (my young relatives included) being scared witless about the imminent demise of this planet. The blatant lies being promulgated on AGW by the left beggars belief.

Wake up Australia before it is too late and we have a financially crippling ETS thrust upon us. Labor has never been able to manage money and this new tax will just confirm their desperation in grabbing more of ours, our children and their children’s hard earned money for generations to come. Maintain the rage was the catchcry by the left over the Whitlam sacking. I have maintained that rage, a rage that the Whitlam policies imposed a generation of hardship on my family that resulted in some of my elderly relatives having to work well past their planned retirement age, all to fund the lefts warm and fuzzy feeling socialist policies and grand agenda. Rudd and ETS is Whitlam revisited, only with the potential to be far more damaging.

Please Senator Joyce, fight with all you might to stop the AGW imposed ETS tax.

Best wishes
# rloader
Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:37 PM
Senator Wong practises Typical Govt double speak. Keep on fighting Barnaby and congratulations to you and your lot of "rebels"You are honest in your pursuit of the truth and you care about your fellow Australians. The Labor Government are traitors to this nation in every way. They are the "enemy within."
# Julie Hobson
Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:35 AM
Keep up the good work Barnaby, you seem to be the only politician willing to stand up for the people of this great nation and future generations to come.
How frustrating it is that we the people have no voice, and little opportunity to express our view on something that will effect us all so much. The truth of this evil ETS is not being exposed with our governing party hiding the facts and denigrating anyone who dares speak the truth. Our opposition has let us down wholly. The media at large has played their part in perpetrating the global warming lie and the real cost and effects of this ETS. We are lead by an ego on legs PM who embarrassingly lives in the delusion that he should be president of the world and all his actions seems to be preparing the way for this. I wish there was some way for the people to be heard. So thank you Barnaby
# Nick
Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:24 AM
Mr Joyce,

I hope, by now, you are aware of the leaked documents from the Hadley Center in the UK, but in case your not, they reveal activities involving conspiracy of many of the world’s leading global warming scientists that involves massaging data, dodging scrutiny, hounding out sceptical editors, fudging figures, the possibly criminal destruction of data under FOI request, tax avoidance, gloating over a sceptic’s death, character assassination of sceptics. admissions of using “tricks” to “hide” inconvenient trends, farming grants, private admissions of grave doubts in their own public warming warnings, close collusion with green groups, the joint concocting of the most alarmist announcements and much more.

# Jeff
Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:18 AM
Hi Barnaby,

If there is a way of holding you legally accountable in the future for the falseaties your are broadcasting in the media, and the scare campain you run against cliimate change, I will find it, no matter what it costs, and what court(s) I need to use. You are holding to ransem my children, and the future childrens future and quality of life, just so you can look good to your mates on TV. I will organise a campain against the Libs andf more importantly the Nationals, with a class action, and this starts today. I cannot believe that you do not hold the importance of those who you are supposed to represent close to your hart, with you miss leading the farming community about climate change as these are the people we need to survive this the most and support fully. How do you sleep at night. Please read this, and move forward, not back to the past. We all now that the Carbon uissue is not balanced and we need to make it more equatable across all areas, but we need to start some where, dont we?

Cheers

Jeff
# Lorraine Huggins
Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:38 AM
Hi Barnaby,
I hope you read this, and I don't know if you heard, but it has been reported that Hackers has stolen data from the East Anglia Climate Change Unit, which claimes to be the leader in it's field. In this data are over 1.000 e-mails and over 3.000 documents with correspondences between some of the worlds leading scientists, involved in researching climate change. These e-mails disclose, Lies, Untruths, Falsified data ect. This information has been reported in the:
Associated Press
Washington Post
Mail online (UK paper)
Wall Street Journal
Telegraph (UK)
Sky News
These are the ones I know about, for more information go to Andrew Bolts site, and there is a heap on information there, he has printed some of the e-mails as well. In light of all this, the discussion on the ETS here in Australia should now be put on hold until this is investigated fully.
# Pieter Kleynjan
Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:42 AM
It is very clear by their failure to answer serious questions on behalf of the electors of Australia that neither Senator Wong, the Prime Minister nor anyone in the Australian Government have a clue about their own policies. They have been proven wrong and wrong again on their failed policies. What or whom are they scared of if they can't at least wait till the meeting in Copenhagen. My thoughts are that this all to do with power for Kevin Rudd as he wanders like a lost child amongst world leaders who are way above his own intelligence rating.
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:06 AM
SUBJECT: Hacked Climate Research Unit Emails – search engine now online

Hi All,
The data now appears to be searchable.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/21/cru-emails-search-engine-now-online/#more-12978

Cheers
# Julie Hobson
Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:07 AM
Everyone that is against the ETS should email the PM on the following link

http://www.pm.gov.au/PM_Connect/contact_your_pm_form

dont forget to answer the question at the bottom of the page
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:49 PM
SUBJECT: Hacked Climate Research Unit Data

I have emailed the Courier Mail in Brisbane on several occasions in the past few days about this story.
Guess what?
Nothing!
Obviously they are complicit in this global warming hoax!
They must be the mouthpiece of the Labor Party!

We should start a name and shame list of media outlets which have been informed of this story and have refused to publish it!!!!!!
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:53 PM
SUBJECT: Breaking News About So Called Global Warming

I have just sent the following email to all the Liberal Senators whose email addresses I could find:-


Dear Honourable Senators,
You may or may not be aware that computer hackers have broken into a computer server at a well-respected climate change research centre in Britain and posted hundreds of private e-mails and documents online — stoking debate over whether some scientists have overstated the case for man-made climate change… Some climate change sceptics and bloggers claim the information shows scientists have overstated the case for global warming, and allege the documents contain proof that some researchers have attempted to manipulate data.

"Warmist conspiracy exposed?
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/desc/#commentsmore

"It’s spreading"
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/its_spreading/

The mainstream media is refusing to publish this story, despite being emailed on numerous occasions about it.
Obviously they are only interested in promoting the global warming agenda and extremely biased in their reporting. Clearly they are simply mouthpieces of the current federal government.

You should all be at least informed about this development and possible implications on how you will vote on this ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) which will affect the future of our great nation for all time.

Thank you for your consideration.

Gregory Rauchle
A Concerned Australian

# Kate Holdsworth
Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:53 PM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

Good morning has any one read about the scandal exposed at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit. I have attached the links above to some article.

There has also been a poll running on Yahoo Australia which is currently sitting on 13916 people surveyed asking the question Are you a climate change sceptic. At the moment 62% say YES and 38% say No.

Maybe somebody should tell Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:24 PM
Just keep in mind this is relevant to the United States.
How long before the same thing is proposed in Australia?
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http://www.rense.com/general88/cap.htm

We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has passed the House of Representatives and being considered by the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington!

This Congress and whoever on their staffs that write this junk are truly out to destroy the middle class of the USA¡ .

A License Required for your house

Thinking about selling your house ¨C A look at H.R. 2454 (Cap and trade bill) This is unbelievable!

Only the beginning from this administration! Home owners take note & tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!

Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Cap and Trade Act, you won¡t be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act. H.R. 2454, the ¡°Cap & Trade¡± bill passed by the House of Representatives, if also passed by the Senate, will be the largest tax increase any of us has ever experienced.

The Congressional Budget Office (supposedly non-partisan) estimates that in just a few years the average cost to every family of four will be $6,800 per year.
No one is excluded.

However, once the lower classes feel the pinch in their wallets, you can be sure these voters get a tax refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to offset this new cost. Thus, you Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class America will have to pay even more since additional tax dollars will be needed to bail out everyone else.

But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read) has many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this:

A year from now you won¡t be able to sell your house. Yes, you read that right.

The caveat is (there always is a caveat) that if you have enough money to make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it. But, if not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes (¡±mobile homes¡±) are included.

In effect, this bill prevents you from selling your home without the permission of the EPA administrator.
To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of your home measured.
Then the government will tell you what your new energy efficiency requirement is and you will be forced to make modifications to your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act to comply with the new energy and water efficiency requirements.
Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license (called a ¡°label¡± in the Act) that must be posted on your property to show what your efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star efficiency rating label on your refrigerator or air conditioner.
If you don¡t get a high enough rating, you can¡t sell. And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every year, even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into the Act.

The EPA administrator, appointed by the President, will run the Cap & Trade program (AKA the ¡°American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009¡å) and is authorized to make any future changes to the regulations and standards he alone determines to be in the government¡s best interest. Requirements are set low initial y so the bill will pass Congress; then the Administrator can set much tougher new standards every year.

The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency for private and commercial residences and buildings.
However, the EPA administrator can set higher standards at any time.

Section 202

Building Retrofit Program mandates a national retrofit program to increase the energy efficiency of all existing homes across America .

Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Act, you won¡t be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act.

You had better sell soon, because the standards will be raised each year and will be really hard (i.e., ex$pen$ive) to meet in a few years. Oh, goody! The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements if you meet certain energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set additional requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants.

You should expect requirements such as ¡°can¡t have an income of more than $50K per year¡±, ¡°home selling price can¡t be more than $125K¡±, or anything else to target the upper middle class (and that¡s YOU) and prevent them from qualifying for the grants.
Most of us won¡t get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of the retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more ¡°change you can believe in.¡±

Section 204

Building Energy Performance Labeling Program establishes a labeling program that for each individual residence will identify the achieved energy efficiency performance for ¡°at least 90 percent of the residential market within 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.¡±

This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the U.S. must be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M each year to enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the Department of Energy will get an additional $20M each year to help enforce the labeling program. Some of this money will, of course, be spent on coming up with tougher standards each year.

Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be required to post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and will not be allowed to sell your home without having this label.

And, just like your car license, you will probably be required to get a new label every so often ¨C maybe every year.

But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy efficiency of your home should only cost about $200 each time.

Remember what they said about the auto smog inspections when they first started: that in California it would only cost $15. That was when the program started. Now the cost is about $50 for the inspection and certificate; a 333% increase. Expect the same from the home labeling program.

Section 304

Greater Energy Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency guidelines for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d), Application of National Code to State and Local Jurisdictions, that 1 year after enactment of this Act, all state and local jurisdictions must adopt the National Building Code energy efficiency provisions or must obtain a certification from the federal government that their state and/or local codes have been brought into full compliance with the National Building Code energy efficiency standards.

H.R. 2454: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:40 PM
SUBJECT: CLIMATE CHANGE POLL

There is a Climate Change Poll being run by Yahoo at the moment.

Vote!

http://au.news.yahoo.com/polls/popup/-/poll_id/50116
# Lorraine Huggins
Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:16 PM
To Greg Rauchie,
Concerning your article on homes in the USA. This will be starting in QLD on the 1st of January 2010, to a smaller degree.The document is called the Sustainability Declaration, this will have to be filled out before you can sell your home. I only found out about this document a week or so ago, and e-mailed LNP about it, but no repley, they of course had to O.K. this for it to be already passed. You can find this document on the QLD Govt. web site at www.dip.qld.gov.au. It is on the left under Announcements. It is all about the emissions that you use, also what your home has as far as green sustainability goes, some people are estimating this will cost about $300 to $400 to fill out. The questions in this document about 56 is a lot of crap as far as I'm concerned, and I assume this is getting ready for the ETS, and I can see in the future where every home owner will have to fill this out wheather you are sellling or not, and pay some sort of levy.
# more government accountability
Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:17 PM

RE: HOME INSPECTIONS ARTICLE ABOVE

That's right folks
The next insult we all have to look forward to is the GREEN POLICE
To further destroy our privacy and personal freedoms
They'll inspect and investigate any infraction or over use of electricity
Don't you know we are all being put on smart grid technology?
(more like CONTROL GRID)
Governments can't wait to keep on expanding, can they?
Creating lots of pointless work for themselves
But remember us slaves don't have the intelligence to think for ourselves,
we need the government to tell us how to live, don't we?

# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:40 PM
SUBJECT: NEW ACROYNYMS

Hi All,
Thought you might enjoy these:-

ETS == Extra Tax System/Employment/Termination Scheme/Economic Treason Scheme

CPRS == Create Poverty Ruthlessly Scheme

Cheers
# John Benz
Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:39 PM
I have heard with bemused amazement your rantings on Golobal Warming.
Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?
Are you a moron? What is your problem?
How can you take yourself seriously?
# Bill
Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:48 PM
You would still be in power now if you voted down Workchoices. Will we see 'Backdown Barnaby' appear again over the ETS?
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 23, 2009 6:47 AM
The ABC is COMPLICIT in perpetrating this GLOBAL WARMING HOAX!
They are refusing to run the story about the leaked climate research data due to the fact that it DISCREDITS GLOBAL WARMING!
They should rename themselves RADIO ALP!!!
They have no concept of objectivity, honesty, integrity, openness, truthfulness.
They are rabidly biased towards the labor government.
They are simply the mouthpiece of Chairman Rudd's communist government.
# Margaret Olohan
Monday, November 23, 2009 10:26 AM
Dear Senator Joyce,

You are probably well aware that there has been over 1000 emails and other data obtained from the Hadley CRU in Britain which clearly show devious not to mention criminal practices relating to the distortion of data to prove global warming.

How can Australia introduce an ETS when the main adviser to the IPCC on global warming is made up of a bunch of crooked scientists?

The internet is alive with news of this scandal but our MSM refuses so far to touch it. Please do your very best to bring this to the public’s notice and thanks for all the good work you are doing to stop this AGW nonsense, the greatest con the world has ever seen.



# Loretta Vesperman
Monday, November 23, 2009 12:53 PM
Would it possible to have Ms Wong made Ambassador to Volcanoes, Sea-Floor Spreading and Bushfires to see if they would agree to stop emitting CO2 if they were to be compensated with some of the ETS monies!!!!!!!
# gem howe
Monday, November 23, 2009 1:08 PM
PLEASE keep up your efforts to block the bill on Emissions Trading which will ruin our country.
Thank you
Gem Howe
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 23, 2009 2:44 PM
Al Gore has been issued a challenge to debate global warming.
HE HAS REFUSED!
What does it tell you about his convictions?
What is he afraid of?
Obviously being discovered as the Con Man that he is!

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.com/expert.cfm?expertId=349
# marie hansen
Monday, November 23, 2009 3:31 PM


Dear Senetar Joyce,
Please continue to say 'NO' on the ETS vote.
You are our voice.
# David Rees
Monday, November 23, 2009 3:37 PM
At the next Federal election i will be voting for the National Party in the Senate
# kevin
Monday, November 23, 2009 3:39 PM
Barnaby keep the good work up, We all know that once a tax is enforced its very hard to get it reversed.
Hey I am all up for clean air, but reduce co2 ummm, fact is rotting leaves let of more co2 yearly than the whole
human race around the world. so maybe clearing some of these leaves might help.
“ yes we have plenty of that.”

Penny has got it so Wong going on about how temperatures has risen. in the last 17 years, I am sorry 17 years
in earth terms just does not register. (one swallow don't make a summer) . look back a lot further maybe
2,000 years for some real facts, but no they don't want to go there.

I am feed up with news reels showing dead sheep, yes I feel for the farmer but look at any indigenous
animal to Australia, there doing well thanks in fact so good we have to cull them.,kangaroos,kola bears
does the word evolution mean anything to her, you might as well ask a kangaroo if they have had any
hotter days in the past. (Australia is a hot place. )

one thing that changed me in my thinking was a scientist called Piers Corbyn from weather action
he has made the met office in uk look stupid especially since they spent fortunes on new computers
to predict the weather and still got it wrong but he gets it right.

HE says its all has to do with that big orange thing in the sky .... why did we not think about that ?.

Facts have to be proven that's what science is all about, its all gone terribly wrong.

please have a look at his site I think it would give you good ammo and FACT.
http://www.weatheraction.com

keen listener kevin
# bill snape
Monday, November 23, 2009 4:20 PM
You already have my vote,I will now be spreading the word.Thank you for your energy & integrety.
Monday, November 23, 2009 4:30 PM
Senator, you are a good man for our country. These labor idiots do not deserve to be paid. Alass, if only the morons who put such an arrogant Government and costly and bankrupting party in power could have another election ?
Thank you for being so sensible for this Nation.
What a disappointment Malcolm Turnbull is to this nation. He seems to be too ignorant and foolish as to look after his image and NOT do what the Liberal supporters of Australia want for their Nation.
Clearly, the Prime Minister Mr Rudd sees Malcolm Turnbull as an asset to Labors future.
You need to run a ship , a house with rules and responsibilities to give people and children direction, boundaries.
A politician who actiually does remaim firm and stop the, 'trying to be in the non committal middle of the road for every issue and voter' will last into the future.
We as a people need clear defined yes / no answers and leadership.
Thank you senator , you are on the mark for our countys future and God bless you and family. Lyle.
Monday, November 23, 2009 4:45 PM
The Americans have a saying about shovelling shet against the tide: That seems to like trying to get a sensible answer from Penny Wong. Keep at it please!
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 23, 2009 5:03 PM
Malcom TURNCOAT is a traitor to Australians.
He has sold out the conservative voters of this country.
He is a Labor STOOGE!

The members of his party MUST BE GUIDED BY THEIR CONSCIENCE when they vote on this ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System).
# Phil
Monday, November 23, 2009 5:15 PM
I voted for labor at the last election, I will not make that same mistake again.
I am already sick of Kevin Rudd not putting Australias interest first. The ETS is
just another tax on all Australians who are already struggling with the costs of day to day living. Stand firm Barnaby, do not be a party to this ETS that will do next to nothing on climate change without the involment of the big
polluting countrys.
# Michael
Monday, November 23, 2009 5:24 PM
Barnaby, Your best one liner is:
"If you can show me how a tax in Australia can cool the planet, then I'll vote for it"

Keep repeating it....the average Joe blow can relate to that!
# Robert Crocker
Monday, November 23, 2009 5:25 PM
At the very least the conservative government told us what to expect before an election not the garbage Wong is dishing out now with Adolf Rudd alias "he who knows he is God". Science is telling us enough to doubt all this bull stuff until further investigation EG Copenhagen might be a start in next few weeks. I do not want my children & grandchildren to be living in a third world country whre Rudd & nWong are taking us. A book "You can negotiate Anything" written by Herb Cohen some years ago spoke of people just like Wong & Rudd in how they negotiate by running opposition into a corner of time run out forcing an asnwer that will more than likely come back & bite us in the bum later & much too late. Bring back democracy & John Howard. nWhy can I not fiinf who voted for these people ???????????. Turnbull who are you Rudds keeper??????????
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 23, 2009 5:31 PM
The following story is very enlightening regarding so called man made climate change. “http://www.worldclimatereport.com /index.php/2009/10/06/antarctic-ice-melt-at-lowest-levels-in-satellite-era/ “

Where are the headlines? Where are the press releases?

Where is all the attention?

The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the LOWEST ever recorded in the satellite history.

So much for global warming.

Seems like very selective reporting by the media in the global brain washing campaign.

Only ONE SIDE is ever presented and NO TRUE DEBATE has ever been entered into.

Any dissenting view is ridiculed - this attitude is insulting to people's intelligence to say the least.
Monday, November 23, 2009 6:21 PM
Please read this before you vote on ETS

Alan Jones talks to Lord Monckton, British climate change sceptic, who says the Copenhagen treaty is about creating a world government

http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998

Has any liberal member any idea what is in this treaty - please ensure you all understand what is happening before you vote on this
# Terry Stafford
Monday, November 23, 2009 7:38 PM
Hi. Senator JOYCE Give them this I am sure mr Rudd will love it.

Global Warming Meltdown: Climategate!
22 Nov 2009 | 3:49 pm Infowars
Alan Caruba
Warning Signs
November 22, 2009

For those of us “skeptics” and “deniers” who have been jumping up and down, pointing at the Sun, and saying, “See, it’s the Sun that determines how warm or cool the Earth is. See it? Up there in the sky?” The truth about some of the scientists behind the global warming hoax has finally arrived.




Now that Hadley CRU and its conspirators have been exposed, there truly is no need to hold a December UN climate change conference in Copenhagen.


The hoax has its roots in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an instrument of the United Nations Environmental Program, for whom global warming was the open sesame to achieving a one-world-government by scaring nations into signing a treaty that would control their use of energy, the means of producing it, and require vast billions to be sent to less developed nations in exchange for “emitting” greenhouse gases.

Energy is called “the master resource” because, if you have lots of it, you can call your own shots. If you don’t, you are condemned to live in the dark and keeping people in the dark about the global warming hoax was essential.

For years the IPCC has been controlled by a handful of the worst liars in the world, utterly devoted to taking actual climate data and twisting it to confirm the assertion that the Earth was not only warming dramatically, but that humanity was in peril of rising oceans, melting glaciers and polar ice caps, more hurricanes, the die-off of countless animal species, and every other calamity that could possibly be attributed to “global warming”, including acne.

So, around November 20, when some enterprising individual hacked into the computers of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU), making off with thousands of emails and documents that demonstrate the level of collusion and deception being practiced by its scientists.

It’s a climate hoax expose that some are calling the revelations a “little blue dress” while others are comparing it to the Pentagon Papers. It has also been dubbed “climategate.”

As James Delingpole wrote in the Telegraph, one of England’s leading newspapers, “Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organized resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more” was revealed in the 61 megabites of confidential files released on the Internet for anyone to read.


A d v e r t i s e m e n t

The conspirators had a visceral hatred for scientists who challenged their phony statistics and climate data, but they also agonized over the difficulties of hiding a long established climate cycle such as the Medieval Warm Period. At one point it was left out of a graph that famously became known as “the hockey stick” because it depicted a ludicrous sudden rise in warming, ignoring the previous natural cycle.

At the heart of the revelations were the intense efforts to ensure that no legitimate scientist, particularly those dissenting from the various IPCC reports, would be allowed to participate in the peer review process. Peer review is an essential element in science as it permits other scientists to examine and test the data being put forth to substantiate a new interpretation or discovery.

The IPCC reports were the basis by which popular media such as National Geographic, Time and Newsweek magazines could spread the lies about a dramatic “global warming”, passing them off to an unsuspecting and scientifically illiterate general public. At the same time, the lies were integrated them into school curriculums and maintained by Hollywood celebrities, politicians and others, duped or deliberately ignorant.

To this day, otherwise legitimate news media outlets continue to trumpet and repeat absolute nonsense about “global warming” like brain-dead parrots.

Now that Hadley CRU and its conspirators have been exposed, there truly is no need to hold a December UN climate change conference in Copenhagen; one in which nations would be required to put limits on “greenhouse gas emissions” even though such gases, primarily carbon dioxide, have nothing to do with altering the Earth’s climate.

And that is why you are going to hear more about “climate change” and far less about “global warming.” Hidden in such discussions, intended to justify legislation and regulation, is that the Earth’s climate has always and will always change.

It is, for example, shameful and deceitful for the EPA to claim carbon dioxide is a “pollutant” that should be regulated. The same applies to “cap-and-trade” legislation with the same purpose.

Billions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on studies of global warming and poured into agencies such as NASA that have lent credence to the global warming hoax.

“The U.S. taxpayer has much exposure here in the joint projects and collaborations which operated in reliance upon what the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit was doing,” says Christopher C. Horner, a longtime global warming skeptic. “There are U.S. taxpayer-funded offices and individuals involved in the machinations addressed in the emails, and in the emails themselves.”

Horner, the author of “Red Hot Lies”, said that the initial revelations “give the appearance of a conspiracy to defraud, by parties working in taxpayer funded agencies collaborating on ways to misrepresent material on which an awful lot of taxpayer money rides.”

The climate, defined as long term trends, and the weather has nothing whatever to do with human activity and suggesting it does reveals the depth of contempt that people like Al Gore and his ilk have for humanity and those fleeced by purchasing “carbon credits” or paying more for electricity when their utility does.

The East Anglia CRU charlatans have been exposed. Most certainly, the United Nations IPCC should be disbanded in disgrace. It belongs in a museum of hoaxes right beside the Piltdown Man and the Loch Ness Monster.
# Jason of Perth
Monday, November 23, 2009 7:40 PM
Barnabie,

Good work. I'm glad someone is listening to the people. Why havent the government, nor the opposition advised the public how much of our GDP must be given away once the Copenhagen deal has been signed?

Really, does the government and opposition think Australian's are THAT stupid?

JH got kicked out, Rudd better watch his step too. Turnball is a goner!
# Gordon Johnstone
Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
CxVaDr
# Terry Stafford
Monday, November 23, 2009 7:45 PM
Penny is very Wong on this one.

Global Warming Meltdown: Climategate!
22 Nov 2009 | 3:49 pm Infowars
Alan Caruba
Warning Signs
November 22, 2009

For those of us “skeptics” and “deniers” who have been jumping up and down, pointing at the Sun, and saying, “See, it’s the Sun that determines how warm or cool the Earth is. See it? Up there in the sky?” The truth about some of the scientists behind the global warming hoax has finally arrived.




Now that Hadley CRU and its conspirators have been exposed, there truly is no need to hold a December UN climate change conference in Copenhagen.


The hoax has its roots in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an instrument of the United Nations Environmental Program, for whom global warming was the open sesame to achieving a one-world-government by scaring nations into signing a treaty that would control their use of energy, the means of producing it, and require vast billions to be sent to less developed nations in exchange for “emitting” greenhouse gases.

Energy is called “the master resource” because, if you have lots of it, you can call your own shots. If you don’t, you are condemned to live in the dark and keeping people in the dark about the global warming hoax was essential.

For years the IPCC has been controlled by a handful of the worst liars in the world, utterly devoted to taking actual climate data and twisting it to confirm the assertion that the Earth was not only warming dramatically, but that humanity was in peril of rising oceans, melting glaciers and polar ice caps, more hurricanes, the die-off of countless animal species, and every other calamity that could possibly be attributed to “global warming”, including acne.

So, around November 20, when some enterprising individual hacked into the computers of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU), making off with thousands of emails and documents that demonstrate the level of collusion and deception being practiced by its scientists.

It’s a climate hoax expose that some are calling the revelations a “little blue dress” while others are comparing it to the Pentagon Papers. It has also been dubbed “climategate.”

As James Delingpole wrote in the Telegraph, one of England’s leading newspapers, “Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organized resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more” was revealed in the 61 megabites of confidential files released on the Internet for anyone to read.


A d v e r t i s e m e n t

The conspirators had a visceral hatred for scientists who challenged their phony statistics and climate data, but they also agonized over the difficulties of hiding a long established climate cycle such as the Medieval Warm Period. At one point it was left out of a graph that famously became known as “the hockey stick” because it depicted a ludicrous sudden rise in warming, ignoring the previous natural cycle.

At the heart of the revelations were the intense efforts to ensure that no legitimate scientist, particularly those dissenting from the various IPCC reports, would be allowed to participate in the peer review process. Peer review is an essential element in science as it permits other scientists to examine and test the data being put forth to substantiate a new interpretation or discovery.

The IPCC reports were the basis by which popular media such as National Geographic, Time and Newsweek magazines could spread the lies about a dramatic “global warming”, passing them off to an unsuspecting and scientifically illiterate general public. At the same time, the lies were integrated them into school curriculums and maintained by Hollywood celebrities, politicians and others, duped or deliberately ignorant.

To this day, otherwise legitimate news media outlets continue to trumpet and repeat absolute nonsense about “global warming” like brain-dead parrots.

Now that Hadley CRU and its conspirators have been exposed, there truly is no need to hold a December UN climate change conference in Copenhagen; one in which nations would be required to put limits on “greenhouse gas emissions” even though such gases, primarily carbon dioxide, have nothing to do with altering the Earth’s climate.

And that is why you are going to hear more about “climate change” and far less about “global warming.” Hidden in such discussions, intended to justify legislation and regulation, is that the Earth’s climate has always and will always change.

It is, for example, shameful and deceitful for the EPA to claim carbon dioxide is a “pollutant” that should be regulated. The same applies to “cap-and-trade” legislation with the same purpose.

Billions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on studies of global warming and poured into agencies such as NASA that have lent credence to the global warming hoax.

“The U.S. taxpayer has much exposure here in the joint projects and collaborations which operated in reliance upon what the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit was doing,” says Christopher C. Horner, a longtime global warming skeptic. “There are U.S. taxpayer-funded offices and individuals involved in the machinations addressed in the emails, and in the emails themselves.”

Horner, the author of “Red Hot Lies”, said that the initial revelations “give the appearance of a conspiracy to defraud, by parties working in taxpayer funded agencies collaborating on ways to misrepresent material on which an awful lot of taxpayer money rides.”

The climate, defined as long term trends, and the weather has nothing whatever to do with human activity and suggesting it does reveals the depth of contempt that people like Al Gore and his ilk have for humanity and those fleeced by purchasing “carbon credits” or paying more for electricity when their utility does.

The East Anglia CRU charlatans have been exposed. Most certainly, the United Nations IPCC should be disbanded in disgrace. It belongs in a museum of hoaxes right beside the Piltdown Man and the Loch Ness Monster.
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 23, 2009 9:05 PM
After the fall of the Soviet Union the COMMUNISTS were looking for a new vehicle to infiltrate and use to their advantage in the control of populations.
They found it in the green(RED) movement.
A majority of environmental groups around the world have their thier agendas subverted
# Sonja Hardy
Monday, November 23, 2009 9:36 PM
It's refreshing to find a politician with integrity, who is willing to fight for what is right, and in the best interests of the people he represents. Keep up the good work, Barnaby! We need more like you to stand up against those who are selling us down the drain while pretending to be acting in our best interests - like Rudd, and Bligh in Queensland.
# Brian Bowtell
Monday, November 23, 2009 9:44 PM
Senator Joyce, it seems a climate Academy in the UK has been doctoring reports to suit the climate change alarmists. A leek of e-mails between scientists has blown the lid off, as some of the e-mails list falsifing data to suit the required agenda. Check out Andrew Bolts Blog for more details.
Keep punching Senator, sometimes the blows land.
# Ian Middleton
Monday, November 23, 2009 10:14 PM
Senator Joyce, would you be so kind as to convey to the honourable senator Wong that should she or Kevin Rudd sign the Copenhagen treaty, I will, as a citizen of Australia charge them with TREASON against the Commonwealth of Australia and it's citizens.

This fraud has gone on long enough. The ETS must not pass.

Senator Joyce, all strength to your arm.

Ian middleton.
Canberra.
Monday, November 23, 2009 11:36 PM
We are seeing the true agenda of a bunch of politicians promised a ticket to the party with the big boys of world government led by the corporations. There is no representation of the people at the upper levels of government. They will continue to sell us all out. They don't deserve the honor of representing Australia - Wong and Rudd are traitors. Great job Joyce!
# Greg Rauchle
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:56 AM
HERE IS A LIST OF SOME LIBERAL SENATORS EMAIL ADDRESSES I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND.
EMAIL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW YOU DO NOT WANT THEM TO VOTE FOR THIS TREASONOUS ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System)!!!!!

senator.humphries@aph.gov.au;Bronwyn.Bishop.MP@aph.gov.au;joanna.gash@aph.gov.au;joe@joehockey.com;scott.morrison.mp@aph.gov.au;alby.schultz.mp@aph.gov.au;
senator.coonan@aph.gov.au;senator.fierravanti-wells@aph.gov.au;Michael.Johnson.MP@aph.gov.au;Stuart.robert.mp@aph.gov.au;Peter.Slipper.MP@aph.gov.au;
Alex.Somlyay.MP@aph.gov.au;
online@sueboyce.com.au;senator.brandis@aph.gov.au;senator.ian.macdonald@aph.gov.au;senator.mason@aph.gov.au;c.pyne.mp@aph.gov.au;senator.ferguson@aph.gov.au;
Senator.Bushby@aph.gov.au;senator.colbeck@aph.gov.au;kevin.andrews.mp@aph.gov.au;Russell.Broadbent.MP@aph.gov.au;David.Hawker.MP@aph.gov.au;
jason.wood.mp@aph.gov.au;senator.mcgauran@aph.gov.au;Nola.Marino.MP@aph.gov.au;J.Moylan.MP@aph.gov.au;mal.washer.mp@aph.gov.au;Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au

# Paul C
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:05 AM
Malcolm Turnbull must wake up NOW and stop this outrageous TAX. ETS = Enormous Tax System worse than any GST it will do nothing to help climate change, we are all being conned by Rudd, Wong and the whole labor machine into believing this is good for Australia.
If Malcolm does not change his attitude then it will be him and the coalition that will wear the blame for allowing this legislation to pass, once it is in we will never get rid of it not even by voting these idiots out
# katrina munns
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:23 AM
Keep up the good fight. I am a disgruntled Liberal Party voter.There are a lot of normal hard working mums and dads out here in suburbia that are totally frustrated at the lack of debate, and very disappointed with Malcolm Turnbull and those that refuse debate or hear facts from the other side.Keep saying no to ETS.

Katrina
(Cronulla, NSW.)
# Charles R Bugbird
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:31 AM
Senator Joyce, i commend you for your stance on the ETS (or whatever else it is decided to be called) and against the evangalists on the climate change debate. these people are tackling the issue as a religion and are not interested in serious debate on the topic, Ms Wong is a typical example of a person who has been forced to commit and defend to something she knows little or nothing about, and has few arguements for. I am not a climate change sceptic, but am constantly amazed by the notion put forward by supposedly intellegent people that we are capable of causing catastrophic climate change or indeed that we can stop any change taking place. I should remind you that up untill approx 7000 years ago you could still walk from melbourne to tasmania and hunt along the way, perhaps we should look to aboriginal legends for an answer to what methodologies they put in place to stop the sea level rise on that occasion (a campfire charcoal carbon tax perhaps), i thank you for your sensible stance on this topic that could cost us tens of thousads of jobs and burdon us all with a draconian tax scheme that will do no good at all.
# Greg Rauchle
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:38 AM
Hi everyone, a blog has been started on the Courier Mail web site by a PRO GLOBAL WARMING IDIOT journalist.

http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/greenblog/index.php/couriermail/comments/climate_science_not_settled_say_034_per_cent_of_physicists/desc/

POST SOME MESSAGES ON THERE AND TELL HIME WHAT YOU REALLY THICK OF THIS GLOBAL WARMING CRAP!
# Greg Rauchle
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:02 AM
I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!!!!

The way that the Labor party is attempting to DESTROY Australia's economy and future at the moment it's as if the mental patients has escaped ftom the asylum and are now in charge!

Barnaby help us!
# SHIRLEY BOUFFIER
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:33 AM
We need more aware politicians like yourself, it is a pity good men are not always attracted by the invasion of privacy being a politician brings, thank goodness you have managed to remain undaunted. Debate and reason should prevail
Keep up the good work
# JACQUIE THOMSON
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:22 PM
Thankfully someone is asking questions. What is Turnbull doing?

# Maggy Saldais
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:45 PM
For heavens sake! They yobbos out the front are doing something for the planet! That will ultimately be good for our nation. That will ultimately be good for the planet. Talk about myopia. If you want to disbelieve the 'propaganda', just look around at the hard evidence. Won't be too much longer, I expect, before the accumulation will be worrying. Not to mention the masking of conditions we're currently getting because of global dimming. This ain't something we can - oops - turn around if and when the geographers/scientists are proved to be correct. It's too serious to be a political football. It'll be too late then, buckeroos. Down we go, yoo-hooing to our Fate like Dr Strangelove.

Am I missing the point, or is it only the Conservatives that oppose this. Do I smell vested interests?
# Ian Middleton
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:24 PM
@Maggie Saldais

Yes you are missing the point. To support Cap and Trade is the equivalent of a TURKEY VOTING FOR CHRISTMAS. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the climate. When will you guys open your eyes ???
# Geoff
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:07 PM
The problem is that we have no opposition. Turnbaull as the opposition Leader should not be supporting an ETS at all. As such we have a limited opportunity to vote for an opposition that will bury an ETS not ammend it and still bring one in. This needs to be buried not amended
# Greg Rauchle
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:21 PM
To Maggy Saldais :-
I hope you enjoy living a SUBSISTENCE LIFESTYLE because that is what YOU will be living if the antichrists rudd/wonng get their ETS(Extra Tax System/Employment Termination Scheme) and their treasonous deal at COPENHAGEN!

HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE DRAFT?

You have obviously been BRAINWASHED by The Global Religion Guru!
How much of YOUR OWN reading/research have YOU done on this particular subject? Or are YOU simply one of the SHEEP that cannot think for THEMSELVES!

So what you are saying is that you are ESTATIC at the thought of the following:-
64,000 jobs GONE out of the resources sector
17.5 billion dollars in extra taxes by 2012-13. to GIVE AWAY to third world countries
Electricity prices up 200%
Food; up 25% overnight,
Fuel; up 30%
Unemployment 20% (this is what happened in Spain!)
Governance by the unelected UN
All services and prices for goods to SKYROCKET
Etc etc…….

Do you seriously agree with these things?
Impact on the Earth’s temperature(which is COOLING) of an ETS – ZERO!
Impact on Al Gore’s bank account up by BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, through carbon trading!
Impact on Rudd – nice job on UN.
Impact on you and I – screwed!!!!!!!!!
Don’t say “that can’t happen”. It WILL happen, THIS YEAR if people don’t speak up against it!
It’s sad that there are so many UNTHINKING SHEEP in Australia, who will just accept what is being done to them without a word.
Diggers fought and died to protect Australia and YOU advocate signing away our SOVERIGNITY at the stroke of a pen.
What a traitor! Or are you simply an imbecile?
Once this ETS(Extra Tax System/Employment Termination Scheme) is introduced and this COPENHAGEN treason at the UN is signed there will be no way that we can withdraw from our obligations. Voting in another government here will not be able to undo this.

Don't forget that if this treasonous deal is signed in COPENHAGEN then part of Australia's SOVERIGNITY is being signed away. UNDERSTAND!
There are HIDDEN consequences also. By signing we are acknowledging that Australia has a DEBT to the Third World!
Therefore OVER 7 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR are going to be just GIVEN AWAY to these countries. So they destroy their own countries with deforestation, poor land use strategies and corruption and WE GET TO PAY THEM FOR IT!

Read these stories if you doubt me.
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SUBJECT: Nations to seek billions in 'climate debt'

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26380589-23109,00.html
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SUBJECT: Africa agrees on secret climate damages demand

http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUSLH624029._CH_.2400
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So YOU are quite happy even ecstatic at the prospect of handing all this money to these countries while at the same time DESTROYING YOUR OWN country’s economy. Thereby plunging Australian's living standards back hundreds of years, while at the same time ELEVATING those of Third World Countries to our standard of living.

Please explain how this will affect the temperature of the Earth.

Please explain how this is in Australia’s best interests.

Are YOU INSANE? HAVE YOU SEEN A DOCTOR? Maybe YOU have an interest in a carbon trading company and stand to profit?

And all based on what? A HOAX!

Parties with interests in carbon trading companies will become the new billionaires, while normal citizens will live in POVETY!
What about Australian Hospitals, Roads, Social Services etc.

Charity begins at home!
Obviously, YOU do not care about the welfare of your fellow Australians!
What a SELFISH ATTITUDE!

Oh of course we will have all these new green jobs YOU say. Tell me have you visited a wind farm lately. See many people working there? What about a solar power station. See many there either? No, I didn't think so!

ANSWER ME THIS:-
Al Gore has been issued a challenge to debate global warming.
HE HAS REFUSED!
What does it tell you about his convictions?
What is he afraid of?
Obviously being discovered as the Con Man that he is!

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.com/expert.cfm?expertId=349
============

Global warming has already been proven to be a HOAX.
Read what a prominent IPCC member and lead author on many of their papers has stated.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/press/proved_no_climate_crisis.html
and this
http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/michael-smith-blog/deconstructing-global-warming/20091104-hxsw.html

YOU provide references to JUST ONE UNBIASED SCIENTIST who states CATEGORICALLY, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS ABSOLUTELY CAUSED BY MANKIND!
Not MAYBE or POSSIBLY!
I challenge YOU to do so!

The Earth is in fact COOLING!
Everybody is entitled to their own OPINION on this so called man made global warming - NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN FACTS.
The SCIENTIFIC FACTS ARE THAT THE EARTH IS COOLING!
Who are the DENIERS now?
The following story is very enlightening regarding so called man made climate change. “http://www.worldclimatereport.com /index.php/2009/10/06/antarctic-ice-melt-at-lowest-levels-in-satellite-era/ “
Where are the headlines? Where are the press releases? Where is all the attention? The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the LOWEST ever recorded in the satellite history.
Oops so much for global warming.
Seems like very selective reporting by the media in the global brain washing campaign.
Only ONE SIDE is ever presented and NO TRUE DEBATE has ever been entered into.
Any dissenting view is ridiculed with puerile name calling- this attitude is insulting to people's intelligence to say the least.
Have a look at this article :-
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/global-bully-rudd-fights-for-foreign-committee-against-citizens/

One of the sources of corruption from the heart of the AGW scientific engine room, The Hadley Centre, Climate Research Unit has been hacked recently, with a large amount of data released. It throws serious doubt on man made global warming. This story has hit the New York Times, the UK’s The Telegraph, Fox News and the BBC.

Read this document on the IMPLICATIONS OF AN ETS ON AUSTRALIA:-
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/climate-policy/science-and-policy/backtothe19C.pdf

Read the document "The-madness-of-ETS.pps" (http://www.jimball.com.au/The-madness-of-ETS.pps) and checkout the list of
over 30,000 highly qualified scientists worldwide on this (
http://www.petitionproject.org/) web site WHO ALL REJECT THE MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING RUBBISH!

“The opposite of sceptical is gullible.” The scientific process should always remain open to investigation, which means, “to criticism. Thus we can get rid of a badly fitting theory before the adoption of the theory makes us unfit to survive. By criticizing our theories we can let our theories die in our stead.” Karl Popper, The Rationality of Scientific Revolutions, an essay in “The Myth of the Framework.”

Until this leaked data is analysed there should be NO VOTING on any ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax System) by the Senate.
Additionally, there should be no negotiation at COPENHAGEN until the veracity of the claims made in the data are verified.
It would be HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE of the Labor Federal Government to do otherwise.
Potentially this may be the Smoking Gun which proves that the population has been conned by all the man made global warming fanaticism from the CHURCH OF AL GORE. Who, by the way is not a scientist, only a failed politician.

Lord Christopher Monckton successfully prevented Gore's film from screening
in Britain. The legal system was obviously not convinced by the global
warming science fiction movie(a convenient lie) which contained over NINE GLARING ERRORS.
Read this:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23416151-details/Judge+attacks+nine+errors+in+Al+Gore%27s+%27alarmist%27+climate+change+film/article.do

Remember "The opposite of sceptical is gullible.” The scientific process should always remain open to investigation, which means, “to criticism”.
The Earth's climate is tremendously complex and far from thoroughly understood.

Ahh you say it has been SO HOT LATELY. Yes, it’s called THE WEATHER.
There was WEATHER prior to man’s existence on Earth and there will be WEATHER post mankind. It follows natural cycles.
It is the HEIGHT OF ARRORGANCE to think that mankind can affect the WEATHER on planet Earth. Only God has that power!

But, as that well known RED, Lenin said,
A LIE TOLD OFTEN ENOUGH BECOMES THE TRUTH.

You can fool some of the people all the time
You can fool all the people some of the time
But can’t fool all the people all the time
"Abraham Lincoln "

COME BACK TO THE BLOG WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY!
# Maggy Saldais
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:25 PM
Geoff

I did not mean to offend you, sir. I have my views and you have yours. I respect that. I get a bit hot under the collar sometimes about what I believe, as, you undoubtedly do too. We live in a democracy, and that's good. Yes, I do know quite a bit about the science. No I do not have any financial interest embedded in believing that the global warming is occurring. Like I suspect you do, I believe in god. I am mystified though: you spoke of people like me being 'purile name callers'. I respectfully suggest, sir, you did a fair bit of that yourself in the judgements you made about me. You referred me to a great many websites. In due course I will do you the honour of looking at them. I offer you only one of mine - an article in today's news I believe:

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/antarctic-ice-melting-10-faster-than-thought-3178553

At the end of the day, one side or other will be proved correct. And all the words, and all the anger, and the rising blood pressure will be of little account. What will be will be. You, nor I, cannot change the outcome.

Respectfully
# Michael Emery
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:46 PM
Thank God for raising you into a position where you can be heard. You have the strength and the guts to stand up against rubbish.
Mr Rudd has the audacity to speak out that by not supporting the climate change initiatives we are ruining our the future for our children and great grandchildren. However, Mr Rudd has no problem putting those same children into a future of debt and financial ruin in order to pay for a scheme which will in no way shape or form diminish the carbon output on this earth. This proposed scheme is blatant money spinner and a license to continue his scare tactics and introduce the global economy he defended without provocation. Please Mr Rudd we are not that silly, perhaps you protest too much.

Recent reports reveal hackers have broken into the computers at a British University and have evidence the advise given to the British Parliament on Climate Change is a complete farce. Why hasn't this made the news in Australia?
Good on you, you have our support.
# Maggie Winterson
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:12 PM
Hold strong Senator Joyce.
You are a voice in the wilderness however, us out here IN the wilderness, vote and come next election - guess who won't be coming to dinner again - Kevin Rudd.

We don't want this decision forced down our throats; with a fait accompli occurring like the 'multicultural' disaster we weren't even asked about.

# Robert Thomson
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:25 PM
To the FREE thinking Barnaby,
Please keep trying . This ETS is a sham for global tax and control. The Sun powers our climate. CO2 emissions may contribute slightly but it is an excuse for Lord Kevin to exercise what he believes is his right to be the President of the world !!! The Copenhagen Treaty will be the end of the free world.
# Peter Wordsworth
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:02 PM
Thanks for your great work Barnaby.

One important issue relating to the proposed CPRS legislation which seems to have escaped the attention of both the Government and the Opposition is to ask what happens if the global warming skeptics are proven right? Will the CPRS legislation be scrapped if the supposed link between carbon dioxide and the rise in atmospheric temperature is dis-proven?

Well Turnbull...?
# Dawn Beattie
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:54 PM
Thank you for your efforts on our behalf Barnaby. You are keeping the interests of Australians at heart. The same can not be said for Rudd, Wong or Turnbull. I don't know whose interests they represent but it certainly is not Australians.

How shamefull and frightening this whole ETS saga is and why the indecent rush? Please can someone explain to me how a tax is going to fix the so called climate change?

Keep up the good work Barnaby.

# EVE MENGEL
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:50 PM
Once a employee of Goldman Sachs always a employee of Goldman Sachs... He is selling out the people who put him in there to represent them.
GET RID OF TURNBULL (AND MACFARLANE TOO.) THEY ARE LOOKING AFTER THEMSELVES..
RUDD is the worst Prime Minister we have every had.
# Luke Miller
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:57 PM
I continue to be amazed by the inability of Government members in both the lower and uppe house to honestly answer questions. They instead beat around the bush and give irrelevant answers as if they have something to hide. Keep up the good work Barnaby and stand firm against this ETS for the good of Australia.
# ETS = FRAUDULENT TAX
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:26 AM



Barnaby,

THE ETS IS BASED ON A FRAUD - YOU DO NOT NEGOTIATE FRAUD.
Finally we have a government that is bought and paid for by the lobbyists, the banksters and the UN. Goodbye Australia - Hello New World Order hell.
Our money wont reduce pollution one tiny spec - what a scam.
The opposition has been hijacked by a bankster.

TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE
TURNBULL WORKS FOR GOLDMAN SACHS NOT THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE

# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:36 AM
If this ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax Scheme) is introduced due to the COMPLICITY OF THE TRAITOUS TURNCOAT, then Australians must have "DEMOCRACY IS DEAD" day, to mourn the passing of DEMOCRACY in Australia!

How can such a day be organized?
Anybody have any ideas?

Australians should show how ANGRY they are on this day! They should take to the STREETS and SHOUT OUT their frustration!!!!! Everybody should take the day off from work!

Look at the WORKCHOICES protests! Let's learn a lesson from that!
# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:55 AM
To Maggy Saldais:-
Did you even bother to read the references and articles in my previos post?
Or are YOU so CLOSED MINDED and GULLIBLE that YOU are not interested in the TRUTH!
# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:16 AM
Even somebody with the IQ of a MENTALLY RETARDED COCKROACH would not support something which would decimate their community!!!

THIS TRAITOROUS TURNBULL CRETIN HAS TO GO!
# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:37 AM
Penny Wong is now avoiding the term IPCC. The foundation argument of all AGW has now disappeared.
# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:42 AM

SUBJECT: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/even_monbiot_says_the_science_now_needs_reanalyising/
# Bob McLean
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:50 AM
As a active member of the LNP please take this ETS to the next election & stop supporting Kevin Rudds ego. Please vote this down at this stage & lets have some real true debate & deal with the facts. Remember Labour lies!
# mitchell
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:58 AM
Please please Barnaby the coalition needs you. I do not know how you would do it but you need to get down the the lower house and become leader.. yes I know a National has little chance of being leader but we need you and your correct view of the ETS. Turnbull must go and this ETS must be stopped. Even if it means we get smashed at the DD election so be it. The result will be the same at the next election even if we pass the ETS. We are either going to win back government or lose. At least we are not selling our souls and having to give China money to keep polluting. Please make sure heads roll tomorrow and this ETS is knocked on the head. The Australian people will turn against Rudd and a DD if he calls one! Do not be scared! I do truly beleive that you or someone with your views and character would be a breath of fresh air the coalition needs to win the next election. People love the way you talk and how you feel. No spin and no BS!!
# Rod Fraser
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:12 AM
These leaked emails from the CRU must introduced in parliament and to the media before it is to late. Kevin Rudd is about to sign away our freedom and sovereignty to a bunch of Globalist scum. This is a global scam that has nothing to do with climate, and everything to do with power.Power to an unelected, undemocratic world fascist regime.
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:53 AM
Dear Barnaby.
Please continue the good work on the ETS. Tell Malcolm I am still a fan, but there has got to be a better way.......and please be aware the things they are trying to slip though while all eyes are on the ETS - Burying pro-grazing carbon emmsiiions document in Queensland cabinet - lets get get that one on the table please.... and for heaven sake, Roxon and Rudd are going to stuff up birth choices in Australia - woman want midwives and we want choice, please fight this battle for us now, not when the ETS dust has settled. Thankfully yours Alice.

PS I have attached my recent letter to Mr Rudd asking for what I want this Christmas.

Dear Mr Rudd
Thank-you for showing your true colours and your vision for Australia before the next election. It allows me to plan ahead.

I am thinking of moving to Fiji. I figure if I have to live in a dictator state, then I think I will go where the cost of living will be cheaper, the air cleaner, I will be respected and valued for providing food to my fellow country men, and where I will be able to choose where and with whom I birth.

I live in rural Australia. My husband and I are custodians of 70,000 acres of precious Australian land, innumerable populations of native flora and fauna; we employ six Australians and support vast numbers of Australian small businesses with our beef cattle enterprise. Unfortunately I have only one vote, and that vote is unheeded. My voice is just one of a dwindling population of voices that supports the nation’s stomach and keeps regional and rural Australia vibrant. Our collective voice shouts in unison – enough! But the shouts are lost over the vast distances that we travel for services and the echos are smothered in the trees and forests that we retain and look after, but are not credited for in any capacity. You let them think we are environmental vandals while you sign up the trees’ into your own national account for your own carbon credits. Fair go!

I thought you wanted to reduce carbon emissions but now I think you just want more money for your coffers and to keep the Oceanic Viking in fuel for an indefinite period of time. I don’t want an ETS which will make the stock traders richer, the farmers poorer, the Australian workforce unemployed and food more expensive and elitist.

Destroying Australian agriculture won’t be all bad and there is a solution: we can outsource our food production to another country running on fossil fuels, that uses child labour and has no regard for GMO’s or chemical residues; a country that will happily substitute protein for death causing melamine to pad out infant milk powder, and sells fake medicines. A country that will produce cheaper food and keep the ugly truth conveniently hidden.
Bring it on Rudd. Close down Australian agriculture by all means; take away the choice to have healthy Australian produce daily on supermarket shelves. But I hope you have a big cheque book for the compensation Australians will demand when the cancer clusters emerge courtesy of food imported to feed the human feedlots; your precious cities; your precious voting population.

I want a healthy planet and vibrant ecosystems. I don’t want you to mine any more land for coal. I don’t want to send our problems off-shore. I want research and implementation of programs to reduce carbon emissions and renewable energy sources NOW.

I believed you when you said you would improve the health system. God knows it needs it. I thought you wanted to give us better health care, but really you just want to tell us where and how to have babies and with whom. You want to consolidate me, reduce my options, rationalize my birthing choices. But for the record - I am not generic and I don’t want some one else choosing for me.

Mr Rudd come and live in my world before you make any more choices for me. I don’t have access to birth centers or obstetricians. My closest rural hospital is inadequately staffed and the 1950’s elevator is heritage listed. I don’t want to share a shower with another woman in labour when I am in labour. I want privacy. It is not practical or affordable to spend three weeks in a city hotel room waiting for my baby to be born. Will you run my property while I’m gone, do the bookwork, look after the other kids and make sure the stock have water? I want my private midwife and I want to birth at home in her care, so my husband can be with me as we bring another life into the world.

But I’m being melodramatic and precious – of course I have a choice - I could book in for a scheduled cesarean delivery. That’s what many of my fellow rural woman are doing now, because you shut down the birthing units in our rural hospitals and we don’t want to have our babies on the side of the road driving the three hours to our nearest birthing facility. At least we don’t have to walk to hospital like they do in Ethiopia – we’re a developed nation!

Anyway must go - I have a BAS to complete, superannuation to pay, a couple of decks of cattle to load for Woolworths and that poly pipe is being delivered today for the next phase of our habitat preservation program.

All the best with the regime. Maybe you might like to join me in Fiji once you’ve finished with Australia?

Regards
Alice Greenup

# R. Adamson
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:24 PM
Dear Barnaby,
I am bereft. Rudd has put the opposition in such a spin that they seem to be unable to mount any credible campaign against him. Thank God for the Nationals. You, Fiona and your team have been the only ones to try to put on the brakes to this insane argument that the world as we know it will cease to exist if the legislation is not ratified by Copenhagen. And the thing that beggars belief is that Malcolm Turnbull has played right into his hands. Sure they may fiddle around the edges, but the fact remains that this tax will make the GST look like a picnic in the park. I can see a whole new beauracratic industry arising around "eco-management" - more governmental invasiveness with no effect and at a huge cost. And Turnbull is still at the helm - I just don't understand. Shame on him and shame on the libs for not getting their act together.
Your blog is great but we just don't have any political power. Even our so-called leader sides with the "vice-captain of the universe". Can you imagine his cheshire cat smile whilst trying to get in every photo opportunity in Copenhagen? I cringe with embarrassment.
I only hope the Australian people remember who opposed this lunacy at the next election and maybe we will get some real numbers to reflect our true contribution to this country.
Regards
Ronnie. Qld.
# Greg Rauchle
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:59 PM
SUBJECT: NATIONAL ETS PROTESTS

PROTEST MARCHES HAVE TO BE ORGANIZED AUSTRALIA WIDE AGAINST THIS HEINOUS ETS(Extra Tax Scheme/Employment Termination Scheme)!

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TAKE THE DAY OFF WORK TO ATTEND!

Remember what happened with WORKCHOICES?

Why not the same thing - only against this treasonous ETS?
# Rhonda White
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:20 PM
Dear Barnaby
You need to run this (our) beautiful country! You're one in a million!!
You're doing a great job, keep on fighting for our democracy, and BEST OF LUCK....
# Stephen Collard
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:36 PM
Thanks heavens you are there. The left and Greens are liars putting forth their own agendas that are not in the best interest of our nation.

I agree with Edwin Knight, Malcolm Turnbull needs to be questioned about this. I am a life time liberal but I couldn't vote for them with Malcolm there, unfortunately the Nationals do not run a candidate in Newcastle
# ash
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:02 PM
I'm a Labor supporter. Or I was. But I can't support the ETS.

I've been reading and reading. I've been looking at what has come out of the Hadley CRU / East Anglia university hack.

It looks an awful lot like about 10 years of plan old fraud. Nice to get your papers published but a shame about the effect.

The ETS if passed will enrich a bunch of traders, bankers and other middlemen. It won't do a thing for the planet (if the planet even needs anything done for it anyhow).

Please don't support the ETS. Keep up the good work. If you were a senator in my state you'd have my vote.
# Bill ODonnell
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:07 PM


Dow Jones Will Skyrocket

Senator to demand probe of global-warming 'fraud'
'They cooked the science to make this thing look as if it was settled'
Posted: November 24, 2009
12:51 pm Eastern

The Senate's leading global-warming skeptic says he plans to demand an investigation into the allegedly fraudulent data manipulation unveiled at a highly influential British research center, and another prominent analyst says he's heard enough and there should be prosecutions.


University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit

As WND reported, documents and e-mails retrieved by a computer hacker from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit indicate top climate-change scientists have manipulated data to hide cooling trends and worked together to marginalize scientists with opposing views.

Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a guest on the Washington Times morning radio show, said he knew scientists were "cooking" information years ago. The e-mails, he said, were the proof, and now something needs to be done.

A Washington Times editorial said the content of the e-mails "could end the academic careers of many prominent professors. Academics who have purposely hidden data, destroyed information and doctored their results have committed scientific fraud."

"It is pretty serious," Inhofe said. "And since, you know, Barbara Boxer is the chairman and I'm the ranking member on Environment and Public Works, if nothing happens in the next seven days when we go back into session a week from today that would change this situation, I will call for an investigation.

"This thing is serious," he continued. "You think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with."


Inhofe said he would ask for an investigation into the United Nations and its climate-change committee "on the way they cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not."

Inhofe's comments:

Lord Christopher Monckton, former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's key science adviser, wrote at Pajamas Media that society should jump directly to prosecutions of those responsible.

He earlier warned that an upcoming global warming summit in Copenhagen is laying the groundwork for a one-world government.

He said the "scientists" delivered a "global warming" fraud.

"I am angry, and so should you be," Monckton said.

"The tiny, close-knit clique of climate scientists who invented and now drive the 'global warming' fraud – for fraud is what we now know it to be – tampered with temperature data so assiduously that, on the recent admission of one of them, land temperatures since 1980 have risen twice as fast as ocean temperatures. One of the thousands of e-mails recently circulated by a whistleblower at the University of East Anglia, where one of the world's four global-temperature datasets is compiled, reveals that data were altered so as to prevent a recent decline in temperature from showing in the record. In fact, there has been no statistically significant 'global warming' for 15 years – and there has been rapid and significant cooling for nine years," he wrote.

"In effect, the global temperature trends have simply been made up," he said.

"Finally, these huckstering snake-oil salesmen and 'global warming' profiteers – for that is what they are – have written to each other encouraging the destruction of data that had been lawfully requested under the Freedom of Information Act in the U.K. by scientists who wanted to check whether their global temperature record had been properly compiled.

"And that procurement of data destruction, as they are about to find out to their cost, is a criminal offense. They are not merely bad scientists – they are crooks. And crooks who have perpetrated their crimes at the expense of British and U.S. taxpayers," Monckton said.

"I have reported them to the U.K.'s Information Commissioner, with a request that he investigate their offenses and, if thought fit, prosecute," he wrote.

'Hide the decline'

One e-mail uncovered at the East Anglia center said: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd (sic) from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

Another expressed internal doubts: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't. The CERES data published in the August (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society) 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."

Further, an e-mail exchange suggested the suppression of information: "Can you delete any e-mails you may have had with Keith re (Assessment Report 4)? Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment – minor family crisis."

James Delingpole wrote in a London Telegraph column the most damaging revelations from the e-mails and documents indicate climate-change scientists may have "manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause."

"And, perhaps most reprehensibly," Delingpole writes, "a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer-review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in which anyone who disagrees with (anthropogenic global warming) can be written off as a crank, whose views do not have a scrap of authority."

He cites an e-mail: "This was the danger of always criticizing the skeptics for not publishing in the 'peer-reviewed literature.' Obviously, they found a solution to that – take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I think we have to stop considering 'Climate Research' as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal. We would also need to consider what we tell or request of our more reasonable colleagues who currently sit on the editorial board. … What do others think?"

Myron Ebell, of the GlobalWarming.org website where "cooler heads prevail," called the e-mails "shocking."

"It's kind of interesting to learn that petty politics seems to be more prevalent in the scientific community than in the political community," he told WND.

The documents, he said, "raise a huge number of questions about the integrity of a lot of people in the alarmist community."

"What I've seen there is a very strong effort to manage the issue by scientists and not as a scientific issue. It's very improper," he said. "One of the criticisms is that we need scientists to be scientists, and policy can be handled in public debate."

Delingpole observed the world "is currently cooling; electorates are increasingly reluctant to support eco-policies leading to more oppressive regulation, higher taxes and higher utility bills; the tide is turning against Al Gore's Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. The so-called 'skeptical' view is now also the majority view."

Phil Jones, head of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit, confirmed to Investigate magazine the documents appeared authentic.

Despite the advocacy of a financially vested former vice president, Al Gore, and others, public opinion about whether mankind is causing an ultimately catastrophic rise in global temperatures also is shifting.

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has urged members of Congress to consider the joint opinion of nearly 32,000 scientists, including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s, who believe humans likely have little or nothing to do with any "global warming."

The Petition Project, launched some 10 years ago when the first few thousand signatures were gathered, has steadily grown without any special effort or campaign.

But in the last few years, and especially because of the release of Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth," the campaign has been reinvigorated.

"Mr. Gore's movie, asserting a 'consensus' and 'settled science' in agreement about human-caused global warming, conveyed the claims about human-caused global warming to ordinary moviegoers and to public-school children, to whom the film was widely distributed. Unfortunately, Mr. Gore's movie contains many very serious incorrect claims which no informed, honest scientist could endorse," project spokesman and founder Art Robinson has told WND.


Robinson, a research professor of chemistry, cofounded the Linus Pauling Institute of Science and Medicine with Linus Pauling in 1973, and later cofounded the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.

Paul cited the petition results in his statement to Congress.

"Our energy policies must be based upon scientific truth – not fictional movies or self-interested international agendas," Paul said. "They should be based upon the accomplishments of technological free enterprise that have provided our modern civilization, including our energy industries. That free enterprise must not be hindered by bogus claims about imaginary disasters."

The petition states: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

Robinson has warned of serious political and economic consequences of assuming "global warming" results from mankind's actions.

"The campaign to severely ration hydrocarbon energy technology has now been markedly expanded," he said. "In the course of this campaign, many scientifically invalid claims about impending climate emergencies are being made. Simultaneously, proposed political actions to severely reduce hydrocarbon use now threaten the prosperity of Americans and the very existence of hundreds of millions of people in poorer countries," he told WND.

Warned Paul, "Above all, we must never forget our contract with the American people – the Constitution that provides the sole source of legitimacy of our government. That Constitution requires that we preserve the basic human rights of our people – including the right to freely manufacture, use, and sell energy produced by any means they devise – including nuclear, hydrocarbon, solar, wind, or even bicycle generators.

"While it is evident that the human right to produce and use energy does not extend to activities that actually endanger the climate of the Earth upon which we all depend, bogus claims about climate dangers should not be used as a justification to further limit the American people's freedom," Paul said.
# Bill ODonnell
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:09 PM
Keep up the good work Barnaby, put pressure on Turnbull, he stands to make a fortune out of carbon trading himself. Its like putting a fox in charge of the hen house. This carbon tax cannot be alolowed to pass through the senate. Please block it by every means possible.
# Bill ODonnell
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:13 PM
It seems the Kiwis have their own skeptics as has the rest of the world. Why is it they are all saying the same thing, that any ETS scheme will NOT stop one iota of emissions going into the air. Seems they also had too ram this through. Surely there is some way to get this lunacy stopped . Carbon traders will be laughing their way to the bank.

By New Zealand correspondent Kerri Ritchie

Posted 3 hours 6 minutes ago

After fierce debate New Zealand's parliament has passed its emissions trading scheme, with the legislation scraping through 63 votes to 58.

The National-led government struck a deal with the Maori Party to secure its Climate Change Response Bill.

New Zealand climate change minister Nick Smith described the debate as "rude and aggressive".

The opposition Labour Party believes the bill will see taxpayers subsidising big polluters to the tune of billions of dollars.

But Mr Smith says that is ridiculous.

"It strikes that right balance that we need to find between protecting our environment and ensuring that New Zealanders have jobs," he said.

The New Zealand parliamentary commissioner for the environment was pleading for MPs to vote against the bill, saying it would not reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

But the legislation was rammed through so it could become law before next month's UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen.

New Zealand Prime Minister John Key is not going to the conference.

He has described it as just a photo opportunity.
# nicola
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:36 PM
have a look at http://climatedepot.com/
# Jane
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:50 PM
Dear Senator Joyce,
Thank you for your stance on the ETS issue. I was a liberal voter, but no more. Please keep up the pressure on ETS, illegal immigration and a strong focus on advancing Australia.
Regards,
# Tim de Beaux
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:57 PM
It is obvious that Senator Wong cannot answer the questions and maintain credibility here.
I completely agree with you Senator Joyce that the whole thing is a moneymaking scam and it is not going to help you, me or the main in the street.
And you may quote me.
# Margaret Williams
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:17 PM
SEND YOUR EMAILS NOW!!

Coalition and Independant Senators:

senator.abetz@aph.gov.au; senator.adams@aph.gov.au; senator.back@aph.gov.au; senator.barnett@aph.gov.au; senator.bernardi@aph.gov.au; senator.birmingham@aph.gov.au; senator.boswell@aph.gov.au; senator.sue.boyce@aph.gov.au; senator.brandis@aph.gov.au; senator.bushby@aph.gov.au; senator.cash@aph.gov.au; senator.colbeck@aph.gov.au; senator.coonan@aph.gov.au; senator.cormann@aph.gov.au; senator.eggleston@aph.gov.au; senator.ferguson@aph.gov.au; senator.fielding@aph.gov.au; senator.fierravanti-wells@aph.gov.au; senator.fifield@aph.gov.au; senator.fisher@aph.gov.au; senator.heffernan@aph.gov.au; senator.humphries@aph.gov.au; senator.johnston@aph.gov.au; senator.joyce@aph.gov.au; senator.kroger@aph.gov.au; senator.ian.macdonald@aph.gov.au; senator.mcgauran@aph.gov.au; senator.mason@aph.gov.au; senator.minchin@aph.gov.au; senator.parry@aph.gov.au; senator.payne@aph.gov.au; senator.ronaldson@aph.gov.au; senator.ryan@aph.gov.au; senator.scullion@aph.gov.au; senator.troeth@aph.gov.au; senator.trood@aph.gov.au; senator.williams@aph.gov.au; senator.xenophon@aph.gov.au
Labor Senators:

senator.arbib@aph.gov.au; senator.bilyk@aph.gov.au; senator.bishop@aph.gov.au; senator.carol.brown@aph.gov.au; senator.cameron@aph.gov.au; senator.carr@aph.gov.au; senator.collins@aph.gov.au; senator.conroy@aph.gov.au; senator.crossin@aph.gov.au; senator.evans@aph.gov.au; senator.farrell@aph.gov.au; senator.faulkner@aph.gov.au; senator.feeney@aph.gov.au; senator.forshaw@aph.gov.au; senator.furner@aph.gov.au; senator.hogg@aph.gov.au; senator.hurley@aph.gov.au; senator.ludwig@aph.gov.au; senator.lundy@aph.gov.au; senator.mcewen@aph.gov.au; senator.mclucas@aph.gov.au; senator.marshall@aph.gov.au; senator.moore@aph.gov.au; senator.nash@aph.gov.au; senator.obrien@aph.gov.au; senator.polley@aph.gov.au; senator.pratt@aph.gov.au; senator.sherry@aph.gov.au; senator.stephens@aph.gov.au; senator.sterle@aph.gov.au; senator.wong@aph.gov.au; senator.wortley@aph.gov.au

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Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:18 PM
Hi Barnaby,
Great Admirer of yours. Firstly, have just joined agmates. How do I become
a friend in your group ? Could not figure out from website.
Barnaby, keep up the great work. Australia needs men like you. Re -
climate change fraud. Have heard nothing in the main stream media yet
about the bottom line - namely ex Goldman Sachs people ( Malcolm Turnball
being one ) involved with the setting up of Al Gore's Generation Investment
Management Co. in 2004 along with it's Chicago Co. CXX ? which stand to
make billions from the carbon trading business. We all know that Al Gore is
a renowned hedge fund operator. It is well known that only the very wealthy can invest in GIM. My question - in view of the almost panic
approach by both Rudd and Turnbull to finalise an agreement prior to
Copenhagen, what, if any, pecuniary interests exist with Rudd, Turnbull,
Brown etc ????? I can't find who the investors of GIM are. Maybe you can.
If pecuniary interests could be exposed - WOW! P.S. If you need more
info re manipulation of IPCC scientist's reports etc please feel free to
contact me.
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:54 PM
Wong is an ignoramus and either a LIAR or a MORON...which is it? Has anyone actually seen any evidence from Rudd & Co to support their stance or is "Australia is hot and dry" good enough for us?
The Media are also responsible for putting us at the mercy of Globalist would be dictators with their demonisation of anyone who doesnt go along with the scam
# wake up to the manipulation
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:40 AM





To Barnaby and other concerned readers,

The ETS is a an irreversible tax that is a DONE DEAL.
In fact, the Liberals under Howard instigated this and it was planned to begin in 2011. Get it yet people? Our politicians have been working behind the scenes for years to set up another trading market for the benefit of the elites of the world and the banksters. No matter what we want no matter how hard we try and stop the madness.

No Australian with even average intelligence would pass this tax, so why then are our so called elected 'public servants?' How can this level of treason be explained? Well Rudd knows exactly what the Copenhagen treaty is leading to and Turnbull is there to protect Goldman Sachs interest. No other reasonable explanations exist to explain introducing this fraud.

We could scream black and blue it wouldn't do a thing - our politicians, Labor and Liberal have vested interests in making deals with the international banksters like Goldman Sachs who will be running this carbon trading scam.
Our tax dollars will help a corrupt and wasteful United Nations and will
provide a slush fund that will create another insane derivatives bubble.

This is a con - it has NOTHING to do with the climate - it is a tax of deception and Malcolm is in on it. It will make us poorer and banksters RICH beyond comprehension.

All the nonsense regarding Malcolm Turnbull, his leadership and his support of the ETS is really just a show. It's just a distraction. Something to divide us all. Malcolm is an empty suit, an actor, a puppet. There are people behind the scenes who would ensure this ETS is passed no matter what. Plans have been in the pipeline for a UN run climate based tax since the 1980's.

I urge anyone who is now awake to the gross fraud and deception that's going on to start digging deeper - trust me it is a rabbit hole. I first came across this information online some time ago. I recommend watching Alex Jones interviews on youtube - he covers this deception it absolute clarity. He can be a bit nutty but there are some golden nuggets in his information if you can handle his 'style'. Also check out his website infowars.com and watch his movies for free on youtube: "The Obama Deception" and "Fall of the Republic" and more.

Some other good commentators on economics / government manipulation in general are Marc Faber, Peter Schiff and Max Keiser. (lots of interviews on youtube)

Anyway, watch a bit of Alex Jones if you can and do some research into the background of the United nations, The Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, The Club of Rome, Goldman Sachs and you'll see that we are all pawns in some sick game.

I'll put some links here for anyone interested and Barnaby you made a valiant stand but we need a third party with some balls and conviction who believe in putting individual freedoms first and is not a globalist at any cost. And if you want some inspiration Barnaby watch some Ron Paul interviews and presentations to the US Senate - he is an honest man in a sea of liars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gKOCb4QBA
www.infowars.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
http://www.youtube.com/user/MaxKeiserTV
http://www.youtube.com/user/PeterSchiffChannel
http://www.youtube.com/user/geraldcelentechannel?blend=1&ob=4







# Anne Davis
Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:36 AM
Please keep doing what you are doing! I can't believe Turnbull's attitude and all I can say is, 'God help Australia', if Rudd has his way.
# vic jeffery
Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:56 AM
devestated by way libs have supported prima donna dud....ON ETS.....keep up the fight you have just got 2 new supporters......best of luck ......vic &gloria jeffery.
# John Spellman
Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:03 AM
Thank you and your party for standing firm against any ETS and the fraud that is climate change.
This ETS must be stopped in the Senate. Be prepared to fight an election on climate shange. The Australian people are waking up to Rudd's and Wong's lies.
Labour must be removed from office or they will ruin this country like all their labour predecessors.
# Phil Johnson
Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:55 AM
Chairman rudd's labor government is the WORST IN AUSTRALIA'S HISTORY!

THEIR BETRAYAL OF THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE FAR EXCEEDS THAT OF THE WHITLAM GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!

DEMOCRACY IS DEAD IN AUSTRALIA!
# Paul
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:14 AM
Barnaby, below are 2 emails I have forwarded to Bill Heffernon as a Liberal and below that Penny Wong Labour. Can I commend you as a person who represents the balanced section of the community. Please consider renaming your party the Australian National Party and promote yourselves throughout Australia as opposed to being viewed as 'just'
a country party no offence intended. We in the City now more then ever need your plain speaking and commonsense approach. Stick to your guns buddie!
.
The below email was forwarded to Penny Wong. However as a family of long time Liberal voters I'm afraid you have lost us with your support of this ETS regardless of your so called ammendments. You now not only have a pathetic leader but become an irrelevant party. I will be supporting Nationals or Independants unless I see a dramatic change or rejection at the Senate level of the ETS. I always had time for your no B.S. style of communication well let me entertain you with some of your own colourful language. Hope you enjoy opposition, cause you Senator will be retiring there whilst you represent nothing with a bloke leading you you will never be embraced by real Liberal supporters in short your stuffed. *********************************** Re the ETS issue, you may well say you had a mandate at the last election, that may well be so! That does not mean you have a blank cheque to do as you wish without firstly engaging the public in the form of broad based public consultation. Greg Combay during an interview today was talking about the complexity of the ETS, yet we continue to see a rush to adopt what we the public DO NOT understand mainly becuase we are not seen as an entity that needs to be consulted. We are not privy to the fine print of any agreement re compensation locally or internationally to developing countries. Rest assured as the public did to Liberals re Workchoices, mainly due to arrogance and a failure to explain, the same will occur to you and your colleagues. Its a disgrace the manner in which you have rail roaded this legislation, what for we ask? Destroy our economy for International recognition as the saviours of the enviroment. Pathetic
# Paul
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:21 AM
Barnaby I have forwarded critical emails to Senator WONG and HEFFERNAN re my absolute disgust in the way they have managed this ETS including the manner in which it is currently being rail roaded through with little public consultation and deliberatly hidden many facts they would know would frighten the hell out of main stream Australians. As a family of Liberal supporters they have damaged themselves for a long time to come! Please consider re-naming the National Party to Australian Nationals and promote yourselves throughout City and Country seperate to Liberals, we need you guys to now come how of the shadows and speak up on behalf of all Aussies on a range of important issues.
# Cathy Abbey
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:42 AM
Barnaby and all other Nationals,

If there is a way of delaying, indefinitely, the passage of this legislation please find it. If it won't be defeated then surely it can be delayed. Ask, ask , ask , ask many, many detailed questions and demand all supporting evidence/documentation for consideration. Ditto for the Greens. I hope the Liberals are decimated at the next election and you pick-up the entire conservative vote.

Good work. Keep fighting.
# ETS FRAUD
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:49 AM


A Message to the Environmental Movement: Your Movement Has Been Hijacked

MUST WATCH VIDEO
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEggt0ldQUI&feature=player_embedded
# Ron CROSS
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:49 AM
Dear Barnaby

at this 11 th hour, you can still influence the coalition senators votes on this ridiculous ETS legislation in the senate
please bite the bullet and publically advise Malcolm Turnbull and the liberal senators that the National Party will break away from the coalition in all states if the liberals vote with labor
sincerely
Ron Cross
Wagga Wagga
# Gail Sommers
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:08 PM
After reading Senator Wongs reply to your straight forward question, I still dont understand what she said.
Please say no to ETS
# Cathie
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:18 PM
It is about time we had strong opposition voice and firmly believe that pressure must be placed on the Liberal Party and especially Mr Turnbull to say NO to ETS.

Thank you for taking up this fight, we need to look after our future. Mr Turnbull this is not how you do it!
# Margaret Williams
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:18 PM
IT'S NOT TOO LATE!! SEND YOUR EMAILS NOW!! BOMBARD THEIR EMAIL BOXES - LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS TAX!!

Coalition and Independant Senators:

senator.abetz@aph.gov.au; senator.adams@aph.gov.au; senator.back@aph.gov.au; senator.barnett@aph.gov.au; senator.bernardi@aph.gov.au; senator.birmingham@aph.gov.au; senator.boswell@aph.gov.au; senator.sue.boyce@aph.gov.au; senator.brandis@aph.gov.au; senator.bushby@aph.gov.au; senator.cash@aph.gov.au; senator.colbeck@aph.gov.au; senator.coonan@aph.gov.au; senator.cormann@aph.gov.au; senator.eggleston@aph.gov.au; senator.ferguson@aph.gov.au; senator.fielding@aph.gov.au; senator.fierravanti-wells@aph.gov.au; senator.fifield@aph.gov.au; senator.fisher@aph.gov.au; senator.heffernan@aph.gov.au; senator.humphries@aph.gov.au; senator.johnston@aph.gov.au; senator.joyce@aph.gov.au; senator.kroger@aph.gov.au; senator.ian.macdonald@aph.gov.au; senator.mcgauran@aph.gov.au; senator.mason@aph.gov.au; senator.minchin@aph.gov.au; senator.parry@aph.gov.au; senator.payne@aph.gov.au; senator.ronaldson@aph.gov.au; senator.ryan@aph.gov.au; senator.scullion@aph.gov.au; senator.troeth@aph.gov.au; senator.trood@aph.gov.au; senator.williams@aph.gov.au; senator.xenophon@aph.gov.au


Labor Senators:

senator.arbib@aph.gov.au; senator.bilyk@aph.gov.au; senator.bishop@aph.gov.au; senator.carol.brown@aph.gov.au; senator.cameron@aph.gov.au; senator.carr@aph.gov.au; senator.collins@aph.gov.au; senator.conroy@aph.gov.au; senator.crossin@aph.gov.au; senator.evans@aph.gov.au; senator.farrell@aph.gov.au; senator.faulkner@aph.gov.au; senator.feeney@aph.gov.au; senator.forshaw@aph.gov.au; senator.furner@aph.gov.au; senator.hogg@aph.gov.au; senator.hurley@aph.gov.au; senator.ludwig@aph.gov.au; senator.lundy@aph.gov.au; senator.mcewen@aph.gov.au; senator.mclucas@aph.gov.au; senator.marshall@aph.gov.au; senator.moore@aph.gov.au; senator.nash@aph.gov.au; senator.obrien@aph.gov.au; senator.polley@aph.gov.au; senator.pratt@aph.gov.au; senator.sherry@aph.gov.au; senator.stephens@aph.gov.au; senator.sterle@aph.gov.au; senator.wong@aph.gov.au; senator.wortley@aph.gov.au

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# Brent Walker
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:19 PM
Dear Barnaby,
Keep up the good work. The Earth needs more atmospheric CO2 rater than less as crop yields will have to improve if it is to feed the 9.5 Billion population the UN predicts by 2075.
Actually the UN predictions are a long way out of kilter. The Earth's population will probably halve in the next 3 decades and the process by which this will happen will be extremely unpleasant.
The problem is Solar Cycle 23 is indicating the Earth is in for a profoundly cool period starting within the next few years. Already some parts of Europe and the US are experiencing record cold temperatures and the heavy rains in North England point to this happening sooner than thought even 6 months ago.
If you haven't seen this http://solarcycle25.com/index.php?id=122
please read it. You don't have to be a theoretical physicist to understand it.
It was written in June 2009 and recent events suggest the author is right on the money.
The whole concept of man influencing climate anything more than locally is nonsense. I am glad you understand this. Incidentally my great friend Brendan Nelson probably circulated to you some other stuff I gave him on climate change. Keep sane in this otherwise insane parliamentary world.
# Rachel
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:28 PM
Dear Senator Joyce,

At least you have the guts to stand up and say no to this crazy tax. Rudd, Wong & Co will ruin this country.

Keep pressuring the liberal senators and thank you for standing up and looking after Australia.
# Mark Wilson
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:46 PM
Yes Barnaby .. Malcolm Turmbull is the REAL disappointment. Rudd and Wong are acting exactly as expected.

The problem for the Libs-Nats goes back to the last days of the Howard govt when the PM saw a groundswell moving Rudds way for an ETS. Howard looked increasingly isolated .. so jumped on board and committed the (then) govt and the current Libs to an ETS. This proves the problem of playing politics (guess we can expect little else from most politicians!), rather than acting on princiiple. Congratulations to you here Barnaby.

Think it's time you started considering breaking the alliance and standing candidates in Wentworth and other left leaning Liberal seats too. Many voters really have little choice between Labor and the Libs now .. the parties are so similiar on many issues. Any wonder the Libs are unelectable.
Mark Wilson, Hermannsburg, west of Alice Springs
# Kevin J Smith
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:50 PM
Go for it Barnaby, I am glad to see there is at least one member who can officiate at the grand apology that is going to be neccessary whe all this Male fecies is delt with.Climate change,Pfffff.Global warming Pfffff. Ozone Hole Pffff. Peak Petroleum Pffff. WMDs in Irak Pffff. etc etc etc .When are we going to get some representative members that earnt their positions instead of all these "limp wristed" Uni ,should be dropouts! We the real Anglo Saxon community,need realism to be represebnted.Immigration both legal and involantry, also needs some realism in representation. Thank you Barnaby! I know we have at least one with some real Guts. Kevin J Smith Vic
# Gran
Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:59 PM
We hate Labor its comunist, been betrayed by Liberal please start a new party that will safeguard the future for our children and reward them fortheir hard work not penalise them with more taxes.
# robert whiddon
Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:01 PM
Barnaby, please stand national party candiates in every seat at the next election and if you contest a lower house seat you would become Prime Minister, I'm sure of that
# Margaret Williams
Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:01 PM
'WELL DONE - REPORTS SAY THEY ARE RECIEVING THOUSANDS OF EMAILS SAYING "DON'T VOTE FOR THE CPRS/ETS - KEEP THEM COMING!!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE!! SEND YOUR EMAILS NOW!! BOMBARD THEIR EMAIL BOXES - LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS TAX!!
Coalition and Independant Senators:

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SEND YOUR EMAILS NOW!!
# David Armstrong
Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:26 PM
Dear Barnaby,
I am sending this to you so you can see the support you are getting from us disgruntled Libs.
"Dear Liberal Polititians,
Please rethink this Climate Change tax and stop it from happening.
The science is not clear, and the IPCC may be a fraud given recent events/email disclosures. A considered position would be to delay pending IPCC audit. At 55yoa I am a "bottom dweller" and always voted liberal. This issue has raised my ire together with other core liberals. We will have to leave the party if you can't see that Rudd is leading the country into a fraud against Australia. I will need to find someone brave enough to fight if my Party won't.
Best regards,
David Armstrong - Chartered Accountant, Father of three.
# Kerry Plesa
Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:57 PM
Please,Please,Please Senator Joyce do EVERTHING in your power to block this ETS garbage, my Great Grandfather was an MLA in Rozelle Sydney, he must be spinning in his grave over this he would try as I am sure as you are to STOP it, we are going to be VERY sorry as a nation if this gets through, and I will never again vote for people I think are going to do the right thing I am going to vote for your party
Yours
Kerry Plesa
# Arthur Rudge
Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:02 PM
Dear Barnaby.
This has been a very sad week for all fair dinkum Aussies. It was bad enough to have Labor proposing thit ETS, but to think the Liberals are backing it is to my way unbelievable.
After listening to that twerp Abbott speaking on radio 2GB yesterday afternoon and then hearing my local member Scott Morrison voted with Turnbull, I willnot vote for federal Liberal while those 3 are involved with the party. Hopefully your team may have a candidate in the Cook electrate for the next election.
Regards A. Rudge
# Sue Wadey
Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:37 PM
Talk about ducking and twisting and weaving! Ms Wong speaks in typical `legalise`, just talk and talk about irrelevant things until the time runs out and never, never answer the question. `Yes, the Canadian Government will defer its vote until after Copenhagen` is a very simple answer!!!!!
# John Pollack
Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:47 PM
Why have a questin time if you are unable to get an answer,I don't think the PM or the leader of the opposition are aware of the public mood,if they were astute politicians they should be shaking in their respective boots at the next election,as both their parties will have an extremely reduced vote,run National party candidates in as many seats as possible,for the first time in 32 years I will refuse to vote LIBERAL ,there are not enough people in the party who have any back bone to speak out against the ETS or should I say a new tax from the Labor party/Liberal Party. Kevin Rudd & his rabble could not get the insulation deal right nor have they got the boat people situation right,so how can we trust them to get the ETS right,keep up the GOOD work Mr Joyce.
# DAVID BENNETT
Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:59 PM
KEEP IT UP I DONT KNOW HOW YOU PUT UP WITH ALL THE BULLSHIT DOWN IN CANBERRA BUT FOR OUR SAKE DONT LEAVE YOUR OUR ONLY HOPE AND THE QUICKER THE NATIONALS START CONTESTING THE LIBERALS IN THE CITY AREAS THE BETTER AND WHEN YOU NEXT TALK TO MR RUDD CAN YOU FIND OUT WHEN HE IS GOING TO MAKE TURNBULL HIS DEPUTY JOYCE FOR PM
# Klip
Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:21 PM


To all those posting here in support of Barnaby.

CONTACT ALL AUSTRALIAN SENATORS.
LET THEM HEAR YOUR FURY FIRST HAND
THEY ARE DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY AND FROM PUBLIC ANGER
LET THEM ALL KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THE 'TAX ON EVERYTHING'
LET THEM KNOW YOU WONT FORGET THEIR DECEPTION
LET THEM KNOW
C'MON - YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

# Troy
Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:16 PM
Keep the pressure up Barnaby. It's the Senates responsibility to the Australian public to not let this Bill through without further discussion. This discussion DOES NOT have to happen BEFORE Copenhagen.
# Peter Cullen
Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:04 PM
Barnaby this whole ETS by Krudd and Wong is nothing short of a new tax to recoop money Krudd has wasted. It was stated on talk back radio this morning by Greg Combet that Australia produces only 1.4 percent of the worlds greenhouse gas emissions. Krudd needs to have a long hard look at his own carbon footprint when he is jetsetting all over the world all the time.
He was elected on a mandate to abolish workchoices not climate change. His head is firmly buried in the sand as there is too much evidence to show that there is no climate change. If we produce only 1.4 percent of the worlds emissions, an ETS in Australia will accomplish absolutely nothing only drive the final nail in Australias economic coffin.
# Peter West
Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:04 PM
Finally the other side of the of the argument in favour of climate is being heard,but not enough.Most people only believe what they read or see in the paper.The majority of T.V. & newspaper journalists seem to be pro global warming & EMT. I think they like to be seen as knowledgable people and with global warming etc. being the" flavour of the month" for the last too many years it makes them feel and look more intelligent by writing in favour of this subject that myself and I suspect a lot of other Australians are sick and tired of hearing about.The Govt. seems to be using climate change and all the issues that go with it as a cover or distraction from the real issues that matter in Aust. If only Infrastructure @ Health could attract the same amount of energy,time and resources.
# Peter West
Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:16 PM
This is a time for both Nationals and Liberals alike who are not in favour of climate change and or emission trading schemes to stand up and be counted. Barnaby I encourage you and your supporters to stand your ground and not give in. If it comes to the next election being decided on this issue alone then so be it. Lets get it over and done with and out of the way so that we may start to concentrate on all those other more important issues that need to be addressed in Australia. I would also encourage the non believers to donate whatever they can because without a successful media campaign to convey the other side of the story our cause will be lost. People just aren't hearing the FACTS that counteract the proclimate change argument.
# MARK GIBSON
Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:56 PM
AFTER ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED ALL I CAN SAY IS
SENATOR BARNABY JOYCE FOR PM
SENATOR BARNABY JOYCE FOR PM
HERE HERE AND SO SAY ALL OF US!!!
# David Lawrence
Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:37 PM
perhaps penny wong needs to fill a personal void by the means of public approval. she speaks so confidently and self assured of what she believes in. I've seen this persona before in people who turned out to be "shallow, insecure and totally lacking direction in life". This global warming "scam" may be her best shot at acceptance and personal justification in her own existence!
The sad part of her story is that she's wrong and in her position in parliament means that she is totally misleading the public of australia. I suspect half of us already realise this and that's why we are expressing our concerns over an emissions trading scheme and particularly Australia attempting to lead the world along this path. The other half of australians follow the media/political spin without thought or consideration of what may be truth or lies.
Labour governments can't manage money, they waste it. their survival is dependant on "buying votes", union bullying or socialist and feelgood promises and lies.
Howard kept them at bay until "in party" dissension with costello created uncertainty and australians don't vote on uncertainty. Again we see uncertainty in the coalition.
We need a strong, resolute identity to guide the coalition or we will flounder at what i suspect will be an early election.
Turnbull must go. Hockey won't be popular enough. Andrews .... who? Barnaby Joyce, this may be your opportunity if it can happen through the party machine. OR bring back Costello, he would still love to be PM, surely?

David Lawrence
# Matt Hardy
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:03 PM
My family and I are fully supportive of you and your views, Senator Joyce. Keep up the good work!

Dr. Matt Hardy
Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:24 PM
how did p wong get this job ,she can not even answer a question.bring on an election we will get rid of them all.
# Bill ODonnell
Friday, November 27, 2009 5:03 AM
Want to shake this nation. Contact me and lets get the ball rolling before the next election.
billy51@bigpond.com

https://goooh.com/gooohforum.aspx?g=posts&t=447
# Brian Moran
Friday, November 27, 2009 7:36 AM
The Liberal party leadership dread the next election and will do whatever it takes to pander to the green vote. You, Barnaby have read the situation and the electorate correctly to realise that we are all starting to wake up to the fraud of an ETS.
I will admit to having voted Labour in the last election, and I assure you that my vote in the next election will be for the only Australian political party that has the nations best interests at heart. The National Party.
Keep up the fight.
# Chris
Friday, November 27, 2009 8:15 AM
I watched the Senate Question time on a-pac recently on all of this and I got to say, can Minister Wong answer anything without referring to her tribe of helpers to her left??

Keep the pressure cooker boiling Senator. Now more than ever I am glad I backed the right man for QLD.
# chris power
Friday, November 27, 2009 10:40 AM
senator for the first time in my voting life if there is an early election over this crap you & your party will be getting my vote keep up the fight.
# chris joyce
Friday, November 27, 2009 10:42 AM
Senator Joyce,

You are embarasment to many Australian farmers.

The biggest loosers from global warming will be farmers - we cannot move our trees around as the droughts set in.

The denial positiion adopted by you and the other QLD Nationals is an embarrasement to all farmers. You should have been working from Day One to make the ETS work, not just being a road block playing on fear.

I want to sign a petiton to get the ETS through !!! Why not have one of those on your web site

Chris Joyce (no relation)
# Tim
Friday, November 27, 2009 11:10 AM
Go Barnaby!

Stopping the Australia ETS can and must be achieved. Stoping any agreement at Copenhagen is more difficult but is even more important. The scam reaches deep and far. Keep on telling the truth Barnaby, there are others to support you/us in stopping this nonsense.

If you haven't watch Lord Christopher Monckton recent speech, then I implore you to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8&feature=player_embedded


On the recent "ClimateGate" email scandal, please see that evidence has been found that the Kiwi's are also involved the devious activites.

http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/breaking-nzs-niwa-accused-of-cru-style-temperature-faking.html








# carolyn
Friday, November 27, 2009 11:55 AM
Dear Barnaby, Please suggest to Kevin Rudd, as he loves so much to apologise, that he say "sorry" to my daughter and all the other Australian children who have been terribly upset by the terrifying Climate Change lessons they have been subjected to in school. Talk about a stolen childhood! It is irrelevant that he is not directly responsible for curriculum content, he has promoted the Climate Change action agenda that has allowed this scaremongering to go on in our schools. It would make a nice change for him to apologise for something he actually shares some blame for.
# Phil Johnson
Friday, November 27, 2009 12:34 PM
SUBJECT: BRAINWASHING

Obviously this scheming by the green(RED) fanatics has been in planning for YEARS.
Look at how children at school have been BRAIN WASHED by these LIES.
Hopefully, then to be sent home to try and convince their families of this tremendous end of the world that is supposedly looming.
This is how these COMMUNISTS operate.
They start with the young people first.
They are the ones who are the most gullible and naive.
They are the ones who are the most easily manipulated with this fiction.
NOTHING BUT CHILD ABUSE IN IT'S MOST BASIC FORM!!
This is why on things like Twitter and Facebook, where younger people express their opinions, the majority of them support this ets.

THEY NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH!!!!!
# James Loring
Friday, November 27, 2009 12:35 PM
Listening to the senate debate it is astounding that any agreement or for that matter even discussion could have been made on amendments to this proposed legislation by any who consider themselves conservatives.
What is proposed is pure socialism.
The discussion seems to be about redistribution of wealth, Who will be deemed evil & who will be deemed victims, Who will be fined & who will be compensated.
This will be the state deciding who may use fire & who may not.
The use of fire is one of the primary differences between humans & all other animals.
It doesn't matter whether it is electricity or fuel for a car it is all fire.
Fire of all forms is fundamental to our civilisation, This ETS seeks to penalise one for using what is really a natural & fundamental part of human existence.
That Turnbull actually negotiated on this makes him & anyone who supports him in my opinion a traitor to the people.
A traitor who must be removed.
# Shirelle Wolfe
Friday, November 27, 2009 1:47 PM
Excellent work Senator. The ETS is a scam based on dodgied science by dodgy scientists. Please do your best to ensure that the LNP votes no.
# tim
Friday, November 27, 2009 5:33 PM
Go Barnaby!

Stop the Australian ETS and more importantly stop the Copenhagen treaty. The science has always shown that carbon is not pollution. There is overwhelming evidence that this is a scam that runs far and deep. Follow the money, its not hard.

I implore you to watch Lord Christopher Monckton's recent lecture on the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8&feature=player_embedded

There are many that can support your efforts Barnaby. Now that "climateGate" has erupted, even the Kiwi's are finding that the data has been fudged.

http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/breaking-nzs-niwa-accused-of-cru-style-temperature-faking.html
# Ian
Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:38 PM
I agree with Tim. Barnaby, keep attacking Wong on the issue of Climategate and the NZ fudged temperature figures. Demand a release of data from the BOM to be independently audited to see if what happened there is happening here.
Warwick Hughes has some interesting details about how temperatures are being massaged.
# Greg Rauchle
Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:04 PM
Whoever is appointed as the new leader of the Liberal Party it must be under the condition that they UTTERLY AND TOTALLY REJECT THIS GLOBAL WARMING SCIENCE FICTION AND VOW TO NEVER SUPPORT ANY KIND OF ETS(Employment Scheme/Exta Tax System) OR CARBON TRADING etc...
FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO MORE TURNCOATES!!

We DO NOT WANT COMMUNISM HERE!!!!

The green(on the outside,RED UNDERNEATH) enviromental fanatics must be seen for who they really are........COMMUNISTS!!!!
# Brendan Michael
Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:27 AM
"It is being used to usher in the One World Government, which wants to control the world. It must be stopped. We must not allow Rudd's bloated ego and vanity give Australia into the hands of these evil people behind this con."

This is an extract of one of Greg Rauchie's posts, to which I would like to add: To which Kevin Rudd aspires to be KING
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:10 PM
https://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/11/six-degrees-and-rising

SUBJECT: When are we going to wake up?

by Walter Starck

November 23, 2009

Six degrees and rising: I’ll call your 2 degrees and raise it to 6

The past few months has been a frustrating time for the climate change industry. Earlier in the year they were on a roll and it looked like a global treaty agreement at Copenhagen in December was a done deal. The heady scent of unprecedented power and money was palpable. Everyone on the bandwagon, activists, bureaucrats, researchers and entrepreneurs, were in high anticipation. But, as Copenhagen approached, unwelcome reality began to intrude on the dream. Real world costs and consequences began to make themselves heard. Developing nations served notice that they were not signing up to curb their progress and that they would need to receive lots of aid to reduce their increases in emissions. Conflicting science began to receive increased attention. A few brave politicians started to express doubts. Worst of all, global climate continued to not conform to predictions and public concern declined significantly.

Then, at last week’s APEC meeting the leaders made a pre-emptive announcement that there would be no treaty at Copenhagen. The aim would instead be a “politically binding” commitment to further negotiations. Politically binding in this case can be understood to mean as it is in campaign promises. Right at the very threshold of climate control climax, Gaia, the bewitching mistress of climate power began to slip from the fond embrace of her besotted devotees.

Their frustration is understandable. It was perhaps most effectively expressed by Prime Minister Rudd in a remarkable nationally broadcast denouncement of climate change “deniers” at the Lowy Institute on 6 November. His presentation has been variously described as a tantrum, a dummy spit and a hissy fit. While such characterisation may perhaps exaggerate a wee bit, it was exceptional enough, coming from a national leader, to attract worldwide media attention.

This has been followed by a media barrage of increasingly dire claims of climate disaster from the research community. With no new information and no warming either, the predictions of climate disaster have escalated dramatically. Each report seems to strive to outbid all previous ones in terms of catastrophe. Although, as a psycho-social phenomenon this is admittedly fascinating, as a debasement of the fundamental principles and ethics of science it is also quite sad. Even worse, it poses a serious worry regarding our capacity to effectively recognise and address the much more certain and imminent problems we seem likely to face.

In just the past couple of weeks widespread media attention has been given to researchers claiming that accelerated sea level change threatens hundreds of thousands of coastal homes with inundation, the Great Barrier Reef will be wiped out by a 2° rise in sea surface temperatures and then came this week’s shocker high bid. The previously widely touted (and purportedly 90% certain) 2° warming by the end of the century was suddenly raised to 6°.

None of this stuff is based on any measurable change in world climate trends. Both temperature and sea level rises have, in fact, decreased over the past few years. The average global temperature is within a fraction of a degree of where it was a century ago. The rate of sea level rise is around 1.7 mm per year, which is also very close to what it was a century ago. A 2° rise in Barrier Reef water temperatures would bring them up to about the same as in the Coral Triangle area which straddles the equator to our north and is where corals flourish at their highest level of diversity anywhere on the planet.

All of these prophesies are supposedly based on projections from models; but, output from models are not real world data. They are simply estimates reflecting the opinions of the modellers. This is especially so with the kind of complex interactive models used in climate studies. These are not based on rigid verified formulas and precisely quantified input variables. They can take any form, as simple or as complex as the modeller chooses, and many inputs are only uncertain estimates. Such models typically require a great deal of tedious adjustment in order to produce outcomes which are both plausible and acceptable to the modellers. Within the limits of plausibility and uncertainty, such adjustments can result in a very broad range of outcomes. Those presented to the public are simply what the modellers deem to be appropriate ones. They represent an opinion or educated guess by the modellers, nothing more. That most modelled outcomes are similar is unsurprising. Outcomes that are too different from most others will be criticised and have to be defended. All of them embody numerous uncertainties and cannot be strongly justified. Amidst such uncertainty and vulnerability most modellers choose to not stray too far from the middle of the herd.

The jump from a 2° to 6° increase in global temperature involves two components. One is an adjustment for an exponential increase in greenhouse gas emissions over the remainder of the century based on extrapolation from the recent growth in emissions by developing nations over the few years just before the current recession began. The other important aspect is that the study proposing the 6° rise has 31 authors from all over the world. This was a coordinated move by the herd so no one would be out there on their own trying to defend the indefensible. As for the validity of the move itself, the only reasonably certain thing about economic projections is that no trend ever continues for very long and exponential growth is inherently limited.

Over the past few decades environmentalism has become a social phenomenon which cannot politically be ignored. While various real environmental problems have been recognised and addressed, the inherent uncertainties and complexities in such issues combined with their strong emotional appeal also readily lends itself to delusions as well as co-option for quite different agendas. Anthropogenic climate change has established itself as the mother of all environmental problems and has become a veritable cornucopia for everyone on the climate bandwagon. Only a few weeks ago unimaginable power and profits seemed tantalisingly close.

In environmental concerns there are three key elements which interact to create a powerful synergy.

One is the shrinking portion of the population engaged in production as a result of technological advance and a growing population of predominantly urban non-producers. Although their own choice of habitat in the tiny fraction of the nation where nature has been virtually annihilated, many subscribe to a romanticised quasi-religious notion of a pure, perfect, delicately balanced natural world. They express strong opinions and great concern over remote things of which they have little or no actual knowledge or experience. They view nature as a sacred trust which is being defiled by greedy rapacious people who must be stopped. Their appreciation of the system of production which supports them begins at the shop and ends at the rubbish bin. Although totally surrounded by technology and utterly dependant on it, their technical capability is challenged by a dull knife or leaking tap. Nevertheless, their vote can determine government and politicians pander for it.

Another element is the propensity of government for an ongoing proliferation of regulation and bureaucracy constrained only by the limits of available revenue. The environmental area is both attractive to voters and a political cheap shot. It’s popular and regulation doesn’t usually require much up front cost to government to implement. The real cost in needlessly stifled productivity with little or no environmental benefit is not apparent. It’s an electoral no brainer.

The third element is an academic/research system which produces volumes of certified experts in things about which little is actually known and most of what we think we know is wrong. Along with a fictitious expertise, the products of the degree mills are indoctrinated with a politically correct eco-salvationist ethos. However, there is rarely any formal training at all in the philosophy and ethics of science. Although their degree indicates they are Doctors of Philosophy, their training is that of a technician, not a philosopher. Their only prospect of employment is a position either funded or required by government. It may be noted that a position is not the same as a job. The latter requires some level of output, the former only involves occupancy of a space.

In addition, the atmosphere of academic research in the environmental area has come to be dominated by competitive bidding for government funding wherein the currency of the bids is the degree of purported threat. The more serious and urgent a threat, the more likely is funding approval. Research funded to investigate a problem never finds there really isn’t one or that it’s only trivial or temporary. Good news about the environment is unwelcome and suspect. If it can’t be explained away, good news is simply shelved. Publication of such would be unlikely to get past peer review anyway and, if somehow it did, it would only subject the author to denigration. Too many right thinking colleagues would be sure from everything they understand about the world that it just couldn’t be true.

At the same time we are obsessing over hypothetical solutions to imaginary problems and gradually strangling whole sectors of our primary production, there is total denial of a very real, obvious and imminent threat of far greater severity. Although it is staring us in the face, like the proverbial 800 lb. gorilla in the room, there seems a strange reluctance to even acknowledge it exists.

The imminent reality facing us is not the demise of the Great Barrier Reef, coastal inundation or catastrophic climate change, maybe, someday, if…. It is simply that a growing world demand for oil seems certain to begin to exceed supply sometime in the next few years, or perhaps even months if economic recovery continues to improve. With any shortage, supply goes to the highest bidder, large users seek to hedge against further increases by buying futures contracts and speculators jump in. The oil price spike in July 2008 precipitated the credit crisis and crashed the global economy within a few weeks. Another spike in oil price will install Global Recession 2.1 when backup and restore capacity is already exhausted from dealing with the current version. The problem will then be how to keep a complex high energy economic engine running with half its cylinders misfiring and the other half not working at all.

Our real problem is going to be how to find enough fossil fuel to keep our economic system functioning over the decades necessary to develop viable alternatives. It is very unlikely to be how to make it expensive enough to discourage its use. Most critical of all will be how to produce enough food at a price people can afford in a depression. To make matters worse, our food producing capacity is increasingly being restricted and burdened by ill-conceived constraints imposed as a sop to the eco-delusions of urban greens. The accumulating morass of often moronic regulations has already driven many primary producers out of business and is a severe constraint on those who remain. In a recession this burden will become unviable for many more. For consumers this must inevitably mean shortages and higher prices. A recent OECD survey indicates that food prices over the past few years have increased more in Australia than any other developed nation.

Threats to the environment and the climate change “crisis” are hypothetical arguments presided over by people who have never built, grown, manufactured or produced anything and whose practical ability is challenged by changing a light bulb. They glibly speak of saving things or switching to renewable energy as if doing so is only a matter of installing a few regulatory control switches and flipping the entire world economy over to “sustainable” or “renewable” at little cost or inconvenience to anyone. Never mind the uncertainties, delays, failures, and cost blowouts which plague far less complex and uncertain projects. The faceless “they” who supply all our material needs will just have to make whatever changes are necessary. Where food comes from is not a problem parasites need to think about.

Known reserves of cheap abundant fossil energy are depleting at a growing rate. Discovery of new reserves is increasingly falling behind depletion and new finds are more and more ones which are increasingly costly to produce. Much new development has been cancelled or put on hold as a result of the recession. With oil in particular, existing production capacity barely meets current demand. Assured shortages are now in the pipeline whenever demand recovers.

Without some unimaginable breakthrough in technology, the era of cheap abundant energy is rapidly drawing to a close. Along with it will go the capacity to pander to the eco-fantasies of a large urban population of non-producers or even to support them. In an energy constrained world, those who can will (eat). Those who can’t, won’t. Ironically, the eco-fantasists may be granted their desire to enrich the biosphere by themselves being rendered into compost by policies they espoused and which made it impossible to continue to support them.

A few days ago hackers allegedly accessed the computer network at one of the world’s foremost climate change research centres, the Hadley Centre in the U.K. Copies of extensive email correspondence between many of the most prominent researchers promoting the climate crisis were posted on the web and the mainstream media have now jumped onto the story. I needn’t go into details here. Suffice it to say that along with the usual pettiness common to academia, the foul stench of scientific corruption has been released. This includes evidence of misleading selection and manipulation of data, the withholding and even destruction of data to prevent independent examination, as well as conspiracy to denigrate conflicting research and prevent its acceptance for publication.

In addition to the damming correspondence, a significant volume of scientific information was also released and is now being examined. Stand by for evidence of even greater malfeasance to emerge. If nothing else, what has already been revealed makes it clear that, regardless of whatever may be the real nature of AGW, the scientific proof for it is highly uncertain and conflicted. It is also clear that many of its leading proponents have been knowingly complicit in an ongoing scientific fraud the likes of which has never before been perpetrated. At his next public apology session the PM should feel a duty to add frightened children, coastal property owners, farmers, graziers, fishermen and climate sceptics to his list of those wronged.

Australia is better situated than any other nation to cope with energy constraints but can only do so by a full and rational utilisation of our resources. We cannot do so with a severely restricted productive sector having to support a parasitic majority of bureaucrats and drones whose only contribution to society is complaint about and interfere with those who support them. All this is not someday, maybe, if. It is staring us in the face. When are we going to wake up?
# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:28 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

Climate change data dumped

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.
The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRU’s director. In them he discusses thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.
In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.”
The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.
Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science,” he said.
Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. The lost material was used to build the databases that have been his life’s work, showing how the world has warmed by 0.8C over the past 157 years.
He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is “unequivocally” linked to greenhouse gas emissions generated by humans. Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says global warming is a threat to humanity.

# Greg Rauchle
Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:50 PM
Rudd starts giving out our billions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/rudd_starts_giving_our_our_billions/
# Julie Hoskin
Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:18 PM
Penny Wong is a nasty piece of work. It is highly insulting that she and Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard and their cohorts treat us all like fools and sheep.
Whenever they are challenged or asked to provide information or give direct answers to questions they resort to mockery and name calling-"dissenters", "weasels", "skeptics", "deniers" etc.
I am so glad that there are politicians like you in there batting for us. I don't know anyone who wants this ETS and there is growing anger everywhere as people discover the depth of deception that has been dealt at the hands of the Rudd Labor government.
I would prefer to see you running for leader of the opposition over ANYONE else.

Regards, Julie Hoskin
# Greg Rauchle
Monday, November 30, 2009 5:09 AM
Flannery drowns in contradictions !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/flannery_drowns_in_contradictions/
# Mark davis
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:14 AM
It is little wonder that politicians are held in the same regard as dodgy car salesmen. The trouble is they are far more dangerous.

Ive never been one for conspiracy theories but in light of recent climategate revelations i have to wonder. What is the motivation for people who knowingly push these lies?

Why do our elected representatives treat us with such contempt? Why has there been so little attempt to verify the science and data on such an important bill?

Whats in it for them?

There are very few of you politicians who have the strength of character to truly stand up for what is right for our people and our country. Most appear more concerned with the party line...that is, their own advancement within their party.

So much for the title of "The honorable...."

Keep pushing Mr Joyce. Do the research,get the facts, get it out in the media.

This bill is founded on fraudulent data and junk science.

Google "climategate"

thankyou.
# John Beaumont
Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:05 PM
Dear Barnaby,
Thank you very much for your terrific effort in opposing Labor's ETS tax,
we are fortunate to have people that will honestly represent the wiil of the people and stand up for their rights.
Congratulations to you and your team, your actions are greatly appreciated.
Beast wishes
John & Susie Beaumont
PO Box 809
Wahroonga 2076.
# Greg Williams
Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:43 AM
Perhaps you would also like to put a transcript of your speech in the Senate on December 2 concerning the ETS.
That would give a far better indication to the objective voters of Australia as to your true feelings and beliefs regarding climate change.
# Mary Paterson
Friday, December 04, 2009 12:49 PM
The world should take away the funding for the scientist promoting the failed science of global warming and then see what their speel is..this is the biggest fraud in history..all concocted by heavy funding that that they are afraid to lose if they are shown as frauds.as they have been..
The world has cooled and warmed for centuries and the shores of countries have changed over the centuries,,To blame it on global warming or to much co2 in the atmosphere is rubbish science..just a cash cow for the scientist..and big business who want to make millions with carbon credit trading.Which we will be paying for out of our pockets...
Am with you Barnaby all the way...MAry
# Free energy that will change the whole game
Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:00 AM
In the late 1880s, trade journals in the electrical sciences were predicting "free electricity" in the near future. Incredible discoveries about the nature of electricity were becoming commonplace. Nikola Tesla was demonstrating "wireless lighting" and other wonders associated with high frequency currents. There was an excitement about the future like never before.

Within 20 years, there would be automobiles, airplanes, movies, recorded music, telephones, radio, and practical cameras. The Victorian Age was giving way to something totally new. For the first time in history, common people were encouraged to envision a utopian future, filled with abundant modern transportation and communication, as well as jobs, housing, and food for everyone.

Disease would be conquered, and so would poverty. Life was getting better, and this time, everyone was going to get "a piece of the pie."

So, what happened?

In the midst of this technological explosion, where did the energy breakthroughs go? Was this excitement about "free electricity," which happened just before the beginning of the last century, all just wishful thinking that "real science" eventually disproved?

Current State of Technology

Actually, the answer to that question is no. In fact, the opposite is true. Spectacular energy technologies were developed right along with the other breakthroughs.

Since that time, multiple methods for producing vast amounts of energy at extremely low cost have been developed. But none of these technologies has made it to the "open" consumer market as an article of commerce. Exactly why this is true will be discussed shortly.

But first, I would like to describe to you a short list of "free energy" technologies that I am currently aware of, and that are proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

The common feature connecting all of these discoveries is that they use a small amount of one form of energy to control or release a large amount of a different kind of energy. Many of them, in some way, tap the underlying ether field: a source of energy conveniently ignored by "modern" science.

Radiant Energy

Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on radiant energy. This natural energy form can be gathered directly from the environment (mistakenly called "static" electricity) or extracted from ordinary electricity by the method called "fractionation."

Radiant energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1 percent of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it.

The Methernitha community in Switzerland currently has five or six working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy (see our Methernitha article elsewhere in this issue).

Permanent Magnets

Dr. Robert Adams of New Zealand has developed astounding designs of electric motors, generators, and heaters that run on permanent magnets. One such device draws 100 watts of electricity from the source, generates 100 watts to recharge the source, and produces over 140 BTU's of heat in two minutes!

Dr. Tom Bearden of the United States has two working models of a permanent magnet-powered electrical transformer. It uses a 6-Watt electrical input to control the path of a magnetic field coming out of a permanent magnet. By channeling the magnetic field, first to one output coil and then a second output coil, and by doing this repeatedly and rapidly in a ping-pong fashion, the device can produce a 96-Watt electrical output with no moving parts.

Bearden calls his device a Motionless Electromagnetic Generator, or MEG.

Jean-Louis Naudin has duplicated Bearden's device in France. The principles for this type of device were first disclosed by Frank Richardson of the United States in 1978.

Troy Reed, also of the United States, has working models of a special magnetized fan that heats up as it spins. It takes exactly the same amount of energy to spin the fan whether it is generating heat or not.

Beyond these developments, multiple inventors have identified working mechanisms that produce motor torque from permanent magnets alone.

Mechanical Heaters

There are two classes of machines that transform a small amount of mechanical energy into a large amount of heat.

The best of these purely mechanical designs are the rotating cylinder systems designed by Frenette and Perkins of the United States. In these machines, one cylinder is rotated within another cylinder with about an eighth of an inch clearance between them.

The space between the cylinders is filled with a liquid, such as water or oil, and it is this "working fluid" that heats up as the inner cylinder spins.

Another method uses magnets mounted on a wheel to produce large eddy currents in a plate of aluminum, causing the aluminum to heat up rapidly.

These magnetic heaters have been demonstrated by Muller (Canada), Adams (NZ) and Reed (USA). All of these systems can produce ten times more heat than standard methods using the same energy input.

Super-Efficient Electrolysis

Water can be broken into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity.

Standard chemistry books claim that this process requires more energy than can be recovered when the gases are recombined. But this is true only under the worst case scenario. When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, using a system developed by Stan Meyers (USA) and again recently by Xogen Power, Inc., it collapses into hydrogen and oxygen gas with very little electrical input.

Also, different electrolytes (additives that make the water conduct electricity better) can change the efficiency of the process dramatically. It is also known that certain geometric structures and surface textures work better than others.

The implication is that unlimited amounts of hydrogen fuel can be made to drive engines (like the one in your car) for the cost of water. Even more amazing is the fact that a special metal alloy was patented by Freedman (USA) in 1957 that spontaneously breaks water into hydrogen and oxygen with no outside electrical input and without causing any chemical changes in the metal itself. This means that this special metal alloy can make hydrogen from water for free — forever.

Implosion/Vortex

All major industrial engines, including the engine in your car, use the release of heat to cause expansion and pressure to produce work. But nature uses the opposite process, cooling to cause suction and vacuum to produce work, as in a tornado.

Viktor Schauberger (Austria) was the first to build working models of Implosion Engines in the 1930s and 1940s. Since that time, Callum Coats has published extensively on Schauberger's work in his book Living Energies, and subsequently a number of researchers have built working models of implosion turbine engines. These are fuelless engines that produce mechanical work from energy accessed from a vacuum.

There are also much simpler designs that use vortex motions to tap a combination of gravity and centrifugal force to produce a continuous motion in fluids.

Cold Fusion

In March 1989, two chemists from Brigham Young University in Utah (USA) announced that they had produced atomic fusion reactions in a simple tabletop device. The claims were "debunked" within six months, and the public lost interest.

Nevertheless, cold fusion is very real. Not only has excess heat production been repeatedly documented, but also low energy atomic element transmutation has been catalogued, involving dozens of different reactions!

This technology definitely can produce low cost energy and scores of other important industrial processes.

Solar Assisted Heat Pumps

The refrigerator in your kitchen is the only "free energy machine" you currently own. It's an electrically operated heat pump. It uses one unit of energy (electricity) to move three units of energy (heat). This gives it a "coefficient of performance" (COP) of about 3.

In other words, your refrigerator uses one amount of electricity to pump three amounts of heat from the inside of the refrigerator to the outside of the refrigerator. This is its typical use, but it is the worst possible way to use the technology. Here is why.

A heat pump pumps heat from the "source" of heat to the "sink," or place that absorbs the heat. The "source" of heat should obviously be hot and the "sink" for heat should obviously be cold for this process to work best.

In your refrigerator, it's exactly the opposite. The "source" of heat is inside the box, which is cold, and the "sink" for heat is the room temperature air of your kitchen, which is warmer than the source. This is why the coefficient of performance remains low for your kitchen refrigerator. But this is not true for all heat pumps. COP's of 8 to 10 are easily attained with solar-assisted heat pumps.

In such a device, a heat pump draws heat from a solar collector and dumps the heat into a large underground absorber, which remains at 55 degrees F, and mechanical energy is extracted in the transfer. This process is equivalent to a steam engine that extracts mechanical energy between the boiler and the condenser, except that it uses a fluid that "boils" at a much lower temperature than water.

One such system that was tested in the 1970s produced 350 hp, measured on a dynamometer, in a specially-designed engine from just 100 square feet of solar collector (this is not the system promoted by Dennis Lee). The amount of energy it took to run the compressor (input) was less than 20 hp, so this system produced more than 17 times more energy than it took to keep it going! It could power a small neighborhood from the roof of a hot tub gazebo, using exactly the same technology that keeps the food cold in your kitchen!

Currently, there is an industrial scale heat-pump system just north of Kona, Hawaii that generates electricity from temperature differences in ocean water.

Other Technologies

There are dozens of other systems that I have not mentioned, many of them as viable and well tested as the ones I have just recounted. But this short list is sufficient to make my point: Free energy technology is here, now. It offers the world pollution-free, energy abundance for everyone, everywhere.

It is now possible to stop the production of "greenhouse gases" and shut down all of the nuclear power plants. We can now desalinate unlimited amounts of seawater at an affordable price, and bring adequate fresh water to even the most remote habitats.

Transportation costs and the production costs for just about everything can drop dramatically. Food can even be grown in heated greenhouses in the winter, anywhere.

All of these wonderful benefits that can make life on this planet so much easier and better for everyone have been postponed for decades.

Why? Whose purposes are served by this postponement?

The Invisible Enemy

There are four gigantic forces that have worked together to create this situation.

But to say that there is and has been a "conspiracy" to suppress this technology only leads to a superficial understanding of the world, and it places the blame for this completely outside of ourselves. Our willingness to remain ignorant and actionless in the face of this situation has always been interpreted by two of these forces as "implied consent."

So, besides a "non-demanding public," what are the other three forces that are impeding the availability of free energy technology?

In standard economic theory, there are three classes of industry. These are capital, goods, and services.

Within the first class, capital, there are also three sub-classes. These are:

1. Natural Capital This relates to raw materials (such as a gold mine) and sources of energy (such as a hydroelectric dam or an oil well).
2. Currency This relates to the printing of paper "money" and the minting of coins. These functions are usually the job of Government.
3. Credit This relates to the loaning of money for interest and its extension of economic value through deposit loan accounts.




From this, it is easy to see that energy functions in the economy in the same way as gold, the printing of money by the government, or the issuing of credit by a bank.

In the United States, and in most other countries around the world, there is a "money monopoly" in place. I am "free" to earn as much "money" as I want, but I will only be paid in Federal Reserve Notes. There is nothing I can do to be paid in Gold Certificates, or some other form of "money."

This money monopoly is solely in the hands of a small number of private stock banks, and these banks are owned by the Wealthiest Families in the world. Their plan is eventually to control 100 percent of all of the capital resources of the world, and thereby to control everyone's life through the availability (or non-availability) of all goods and services.

An independent source of wealth (free energy device) in the hands of each and every person in the world ruins their plans for world domination, permanently.

Why this is true is easy to see. Currently, a nation's economy can be either slowed down or sped up by the raising or lowering of interest rates. But if an independent source of capital (energy) were present in the economy, and any business or person could raise more capital without borrowing it from a bank, this centralized throttling action on interest rates would simply not have the same effect.

Free energy technology changes the value of money. The Wealthiest Families and the Issuers of Credit do not want competition. It's that simple. They want to maintain their current monopoly control of the money supply. For them, free energy technology is not just something to suppress, it must be permanently forbidden!

The First Force

So the Wealthiest Families and their central banking institutions are the First Force operating to postpone the public availability of free energy technology.

Their motivations are the imagined "divine right to rule," greed, and their insatiable need to control everything except themselves.

The weapons they have used to enforce this postponement include intimidation, "expert" debunkers, buying and shelving of technology, murder and attempted murder of the inventors, character assassination, arson, and a wide variety of financial incentives and disincentives to manipulate possible supporters.

They have also promoted the general acceptance of a scientific theory that states that free energy is impossible (Laws of Thermodynamics).

The Second Force

The Second Force operating to postpone the public availability of free energy technology is national governments.

The problem here is not so much related to competition in the printing of currency, but in the maintenance of National Security.

The fact is that the world out there is a jungle, and humans can be counted upon to be cruel, dishonest, and sneaky. It is Government's job to "provide for the common defense." For this, "police powers" are delegated by the Executive Branch of Government to enforce "the rule of law."

Most of us who consent to the rule of law do so because we believe it is the right thing to do, for our own benefit. There are always a few individuals, however, who believe that their own benefit is best served by behavior that does not voluntarily conform to the generally agreed upon social order. These people choose to operate outside of "the rule of law" and are considered outlaws, criminals, subversives, traitors, revolutionaries, or terrorists.

Most national governments have discovered, by trial and error, that the only Foreign Policy that really works, over time, is a policy called "tit for tat." What this means to you and me is that governments treat each other the way they are being treated. There is a constant "jockeying" for position and influence in world affairs, and the strongest party wins!

In economics, it's the Golden Rule, which states: "The one with the gold makes the rules." So it is with politics, also, but its appearance is more Darwinian. It's simply "survival of the fittest." In politics, however, the "fittest" has come to mean the strongest party who is also willing to fight the dirtiest.

Absolutely every means available is used to maintain an advantage over the "adversary," and everyone else is the "adversary" regardless of whether they are considered friend or foe. This includes outrageous psychological posturing, lying, cheating, spying, stealing, assassination of world leaders, proxy wars, alliances and shifting alliances, treaties, foreign aid, and the presence of military forces wherever possible.

Like it or not, this IS the psychological and actual arena National Governments operate in. No national government will ever do anything that simply gives an adversary an advantage for free. Never! It's national suicide.

Any activity by any individual, inside or outside the country, that is interpreted as giving an adversary an edge or advantage, in any way, will be deemed a threat to "national security." Always!

Free energy technology is a national government's worst nightmare! Openly acknowledged, free energy technology sparks an unlimited arms race by all governments in a final attempt to gain absolute advantage and domination.

Think about it. Do you think Japan will not feel intimidated if China gets free energy? Do you think Israel will sit by quietly as Iraq acquires free energy? Do you think India will allow Pakistan to develop free energy? Do you think the USA would not try to stop Osama bin Laden from getting free energy?

Unlimited energy available to the current state of affairs on this planet leads to an inevitable reshuffling of the "balance of power." This could become an all-out war to prevent "the other" from having the advantage of unlimited wealth and power. Everybody will want it, and at the same time, will want to prevent everyone else from getting it.

So, national governments are the Second Force operating to postpone the public availability of free energy technology. Their motivations are "self-preservation."

This self-preservation operates on three levels. First, by not giving undue advantage to an external enemy. Second, by preventing individualized action (anarchy) capable of effectively challenging official police powers within the country. And third, by preserving income streams derived from taxing energy sources currently in use.

Their weapons include preventing of the issuance of patents based on national security grounds, legal and illegal harassment of inventors with criminal charges, tax audits, threats, phone taps, arrest, arson, theft of property during shipment, and a host of other intimidations which make the business of building and marketing a free energy machine impossible.

The Third Force

The Third Force operating to postpone the public availability of free energy technology consists of the group of deluded inventors and outright charlatans and con men.

On the periphery of the extraordinary scientific breakthroughs that constitute the real free energy technologies lies a shadow world of unexplained anomalies, marginal inventions, and unscrupulous promoters.

The first two Forces have constantly used the media to promote the worst examples of this group, to distract the public's attention and to discredit the real breakthroughs by associating them with the obvious frauds.

Over the last hundred years, dozens of stories have surfaced about unusual inventions. Some of these ideas have so captivated the public's imagination that a mythology about these systems continues to this day. Names like Keely, Hubbard, Coler, and Henderschott immediately come to mind. There may be real technologies behind these names, but there simply isn't enough technical data available in the public domain to make a determination. These names remain associated with a free energy mythology, however, and are cited by debunkers as examples of fraud.

The idea of free energy taps very deeply into the human subconscious mind. A few inventors with marginal technologies that demonstrate useful anomalies have mistakenly exaggerated the importance of their inventions. Some of these inventors also have mistakenly exaggerated the importance of themselves for having invented it. A combination of "gold fever" and/or a "messiah complex" appears, wholly distorting any future contribution they may make.

While the research thread they are following may hold great promise, they begin to trade enthusiasm for facts, and the value of the scientific work from that point on suffers greatly. There is a powerful, yet subtle seduction that can warp a personality if they believe that "the world rests on their shoulders" or that they are the world's "savior."

Strange things also happen to people when they think they are about to become extremely rich. It takes a tremendous spiritual discipline to remain objective and humble in the presence of a working free energy machine. Many inventors' psyches become unstable just believing they have a free energy machine.

As the quality of the science deteriorates, some inventors also develop a "persecution complex" that makes them very defensive and unapproachable. This process precludes them from ever really developing a free energy machine, and fuels the fraud mythologies tremendously.

Then there are the outright con men. In the last fifteen years, there is one person in the USA who has raised the free energy con to a professional art. He has raised more than $100 million has been barred from doing business in the State of Washington, has been jailed in California, and he's still at it.

He always talks about a variation of one of the real free energy systems, sells people on the idea that they will get one of these systems soon, but ultimately sells them only promotional information which gives no real data about the energy system itself. He has mercilessly preyed upon the Christian community and the patriot community in the USA, and is still going strong.

His current scam involves signing up hundreds of thousands of people at locations where he will install a free energy machine. In exchange for letting him put the FE generator in their home, they will get free electricity for life, and his company will sell the excess energy back to the local utility company.

After becoming convinced that they will receive free electricity for life, with no out-front expenses, people gladly buy a video that helps draw their friends into the scam as well.

Once you understand the power and motivations of the first two Forces I have discussed, it's obvious that this person's current "business plan" cannot be implemented. This one person has probably done more harm to the free energy movement in the USA than any other Force, by destroying people's trust in the technology.

So, the Third Force postponing the public availability of free energy technology is delusion and dishonesty within the movement itself. The motivations are self-aggrandizement, greed, desire for power over others, and a false sense of self-importance.

The weapons used are lying, cheating, the "bait and switch" con, self-delusion, and arrogance, combined with lousy science.

The Fourth Force

The Fourth Force operating to postpone the public availability of free energy technology is all of the rest of us. It may be easy to see how narrow and despicable the motivations of the other forces are, but actually, these motivations are still very much alive in each of us as well.

Like the Wealthiest Families, don't we each secretly harbor illusions of false superiority, and they want to control others instead of ourselves? Also, wouldn't you "sell out" if the price were high enough? Say, take $1 million cash today?

Or, like the governments, don't we each want to ensure our own survival? If caught in the middle of a full, burning theater, do you panic and push all of the weaker people out of the way in a mad, scramble for the door?

Or, like the deluded inventor, don't we trade a comfortable illusion once in a while for an uncomfortable fact? And don't we like to think more of ourselves than others give us credit for? Or don't we still fear the unknown, even if it promises a great reward?

You see, really, all Four Forces are just different aspects of the same process, operating at different levels in the society.

There is really only ONE FORCE preventing the public availability of free energy technology, and that is the unspiritually motivated behavior of the human animals.

In the last analysis, free energy technology is an outward manifestation of Divine Abundance. It is the engine of the economy of an enlightened society, where people voluntarily behave in a respectful and civil manner toward each other. Where all members of the society have everything they need, and do not covet what their neighbor has. Where war and physical violence have become socially unacceptable behaviors, and people's differences are at least tolerated, if not enjoyed.

The appearance of free energy technology in the public domain is the dawning of a truly civilized age. It is an epochal event in human history. Nobody can "take credit" for it. Nobody can "get rich" on it. Nobody can "rule the world" with it. It is, simply, a Gift from God. It forces us all to take responsibility for our own actions and for our own self-disciplined self-restraint when needed.

The world as it is currently ordered cannot have free energy technology without being totally transformed by it into something else. This "civilization" has reached the pinnacle of its development, because it has birthed the seeds of its own transformation.

Unspiritualized human animals cannot be trusted with free energy. They will only do what they have always done, which is to take merciless advantage of each other, or kill each other and themselves in the process.

If you go back and read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged or the Club of Rome Report, it becomes obvious that the Wealthiest Families have understood this for decades. Their plan is to live in The World of Free Energy, but permanently freeze the rest of us out.

But this is not new. Royalty has always considered the general population (us) to be their subjects. What is new is that you and I can communicate with each other now better than at anytime in the past. The Internet offers us, the Fourth Force, an opportunity to overcome the combined efforts of the other Forces preventing free energy technology from spreading.

The Opportunity

What is starting to happen is that inventors are publishing their work, instead of patenting it and keeping it secret. More and more, people are "giving away" information on these technologies in books, videos, and websites.

While there is still a great deal of useless information about free energy on the Internet, the availability of good information is rising rapidly. Check out the list of websites and other resources at the end of this article.

It is imperative that you begin to gather all of the information you can on real free energy systems. The reason for this is simple. The first two Forces will never allow an inventor or a company to build and sell a free energy machine to you! The only way you will ever get one is if you, or a friend, build it yourself.

This is exactly what thousands of people are already quietly starting to do. You may feel wholly inadequate to the task, but start gathering information now. You may be just a link in the chain of events for the benefit of others.

Focus on what you can do now, not on how much there still is to be done. Small, private research groups are working out the details as you read this. Many are committed to publishing their results on the Internet.

All of us constitute the Fourth Force. If we stand up and refuse to remain ignorant and action-less, we can change the course of history. It is the aggregate of our combined action that can make a difference.

Only the mass action that represents our consensus can create the world we want. The other three Forces will not help us put a fuelless power plant in our basements. They will not help us to be free from their manipulations.

Nevertheless, free energy technology is here. It is real, and it will change everything about the way we live, work, and relate to each other. In the last analysis, free energy technology makes obsolete both greed and the fear for survival.

But like all exercises of spiritual faith, we must first manifest the generosity and trust in our own lives.

The Source of Free Energy is inside of us. It is that excitement of expressing ourselves freely. It is our spiritually guided intuition expressing itself without distraction, intimidation, or manipulation. It is our open-heartedness.

Ideally, the free energy technologies underpin a just society where everyone has enough food, clothing, shelter, self-worth, and the leisure time to contemplate the higher Spiritual meanings of Life.

Do we not owe it to each other to face our fears and take action to create this future for our children's children?

Perhaps I am not the only one waiting for me to act on a greater Truth.

The Coming Times

Free energy technology is here, it has been here for decades. Communication technology and the Internet have torn the veil of secrecy off of this remarkable fact. People all over the world are starting to build free energy devices for their own use. The bankers and the governments do not want this to happen, but cannot stop it.

Tremendous economic instabilities and wars will be used in the near future to distract people from joining the free energy movement. There will be essentially no major media coverage of this aspect of what is going on. It will simply be reported as wars and civil wars erupting everywhere, leading to UN "peace keeper" occupation in more and more countries.

Western society is spiraling down toward self-destruction due to the accumulated effects of long-term greed and corruption. The general availability of free energy technology cannot stop this trend. It can only reinforce it.

If, however, you have a free energy device, you may be better positioned to survive the political/social/economic transition that is underway.

No national government will survive this process. The question is, who will ultimately control the emerging World Government — the First Force? or the Fourth Force?

The last Great War is almost upon us. The seeds are planted. After this will come the beginning of a real Civilization. Some of us who refuse to participate in war will survive to see the dawn of the World of Free Energy.

I challenge you to be among the ones who try.
Monday, December 14, 2009 2:27 PM
Rocking good work Barnaby. The first and only elected representative to speak with the right words and in the right tones about this menace. The dysfunctional punditti are now trying to make you out to be some fellow who lacks financial sophistication. But THEY lack financial sophistication. Too stupid to remember or interpolate how matters can operate outside of a casino where the house is rigged.

Keep it up. Remind Tony that we all are relying on him and he's not to "go wobbly on us" as Lady Thatcher once said. I've prevailed upon some Americans to help take your act international, in terms of some of these youtubes. I've asked them to put a couple of your youtubes about, to give the other Americans some hope and inspiration, in what after all is an atrocious time for them.
Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:55 PM
Excellent post.Thanks for sharing.
Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM
Question time is drawn to a close each day by the Leader of the Government in the Senate asking that further questions be placed on notice.It is common for a senator to advise a minister informally of his or her intention to seek an explanation under the 30-day rule, to improve the chances of receiving an answer or a satisfactory explanation.
Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:48 AM
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